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- From: cmcmanis@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: No, it ain't dead yet
- Date: 5 Jan 1993 02:16:19 GMT
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- In article <C0BD5s.2nI@news.cso.uiuc.edu> (Robert L. Thomas) writes:
- >Bleh. I have had an amiga back when Mac's were little grey boxes and
- >the IBM AT was the best they had to offer.
-
- Me too.
-
- >This was amigas chance to rule but lets face it, the amiga is in a
- >tail spin.
-
- Not exactly, its more like they aren't very focused, or their focused
- somewhere you aren't looking.
-
- > ... I have played wing commander on a 486 and I have to laugh at the
- > amiga version.
-
- So did you play a version of wing commander written for an '040 based
- Amiga?
-
- > ... I'm going to miss my amiga, but when I can get a full 386 SYSTEM
- > for $1000, and a 486 for $2000 (note that monitor mem
- > HD etc) I am going to have to go shopping at electech rather then
- > take a long trip to the only amiga dealer of merit in my area.
-
- Hello everyone, no I'm not dead, thanks for asking. It had to do with
- having kids and suddenly losing all of my "free" time and hence my hacking
- time. Their getting older, and I'm learning to cope so I'm at least reading
- the amiga groups again.
-
- Robert raises some valid points, and the underlying mechanisms that cause
- them to be true need to be examined.
- 1) A lot of companies owe their life to the existence of the
- existence of the 80x86 market, and they work at protecting
- it. Intel and Microsoft are the most proactive.
- 2) x86 boxes are a "commodity" product. That means that anyone
- can design a motherboard and start selling "PC compatibles"
- with not a lot of overhead, and no investment in software.
-
- The commodityness of the market means that for any of the clone makers
- to maintain market share they have to do one of two things, sell it for
- less or sell it with better features. Since "features" tend to be
- incompatible no one bothers with that and the "sell it for less" strategy
- takes hold. This is literally killing companies. Certainly the bottom
- line at Compaq has taken a brutal blow, Everex is under chapter 11 protection,
- and places like Mylex and ATI are hemmoraging red ink. Now, more than
- ever, buying a clone is a gamble whether or not the company will survive.
-
- For you and me of course this is a boon, but it can't go on. '93 may be
- the year the PC died for several reasons.
- 1) Clone makers haven't invested in the design tools neccessary
- to build Pentium machines.
- 2) There is no "profit" in building PC compatibles, hence no R&D
- budgets.
- 3) There are three, possibly four OSes that are competeing for
- "First real OS to run on the machine." (Win/NT, OS/2, Univel,
- Solaris) None of the developers know where to jump.
- 4) The machines literally *creak* with a filesystem that rolls
- over dead on big disks, lack of true multitasking, legacy
- applications (Who wants to tell a Fortune 100 company that
- they can't use their custom program that used to work on a
- IBM PC/XT any more?)
- 5) No serious bandwidth or standards for multimedia.
- Its strange but the PC world is where the CP/M world was back in '81 when
- the IBM PC was introduced. No doubt the organism it too large to die any
- sort of sudden death, but in many ways that death is already foretold.
-
- The other strange thing is that what the behemoth has done, is to actually
- create a computer market for the "home." "How?" might you ask. Quite simply
- the "cheapness" of the IBM PC has lead to a *lot* of them finding their way
- into homes. That in turn makes people ask "Gee, so what can I do with it?"
- And in pursuit of that question the open market has come to bear. Now the
- really strange thing, is that while this relatively new market is beginning
- to bloom, *PC and Mac folks are ignoring it!* You see, they too were mislead
- into believing "a PC in every home" once, before there was any sort of
- infrastructure to support it, and got burned. So now they are shy. Good for
- us! Things like Quiken, Managing your Money, etc have actually generated
- demand for better electronic banking in this country (US). Things like
- Checkfree have made that possible. Charles Schwab sells a program that lets
- you buy and sell stocks using your PC. The desire for data has lead the
- development of CD-ROMs. As we reach the cusp of penetration for CD-ROMs
- the demand will grow astronomically. Ever wonder what it would be like to
- get "Consumer Reports" for the last 5 years on CD-ROM ? Its happening because
- a) People have machines at home, b) They are desparately trying to use them
- for something, and c) there is money to be made. The next couple of years
- will no doubt _completely_ change the personal computer market, and the
- Amiga is well positioned to capture a decent chunk of what is suppoesed to
- become a 60 BILLION dollar business by 1998. (Source IDC)
-
- So now we get back to the question of "focus." Commodore has done well
- focusing on the video segment of the market. They have achieved good
- press and mindshare in that community. Nintendo, Sega, and the rest
- are now touting "16 bit" systems as the greatest things since sliced
- bread. Commodore got the 64 market by telling people "Why buy a video
- game when for a bit more money you can get a video game *and* a computer."
- This works with the Nintendo crowd. Commodore needs to do some focusing
- here. Also if you target the Nintendites you have a much better shot
- at getting around mom and dad.
-
- At some point everyone asks. Ok, so I've got this thing and I want to use
- it at home, what can I do with it. Certainly Commodore would be well served
- by creating a set of "open" applications based on IFF, AREXX, etc that
- did the standard stuff "flat file database, word processing, spreadsheets,
- CD-ROM browsing, telecommunications, and faxing." But they have only limited
- resources. But here again, the nice thing about the PC's "commodity" market
- status is that the Amiga represents a "niche" that can earn a PC company
- a bit of extra cache. And fortunatly the development tools are finally up
- to a level where they can do so without totally falling over dead :-).
-
- I'm rambling and this is too long already but I'll add this personal
- testamonial. When I got some free time back and decided to pursue some
- of my more estoric hobbies such as robotics, I thought "hmm, better go
- out and buy a PC." But since I also like to write code and such I knew
- I'd have to learn a new O/S and a new way of doing things. What I learned
- was that Windows 3.x was about as friendly to the programmer as hex
- dumps. No integration, no consistent models, no end to all of the special
- case bullshit needed to run on "all" platforms. No fun at all to program
- to (but very profitable, hence the large quantities of programs) So for
- me my trusty A2000 with its serial ports and large memory space, and
- true multitasking were the only way to go. It isn't a "state of the art"
- game machine (the A4000 just might be, personally I'd like to see something
- designed around the SparcStation 10 mother board :-) but it was certainly
- a useful machine. Since I don't need the slots in an AT I think a bridgeboard
- can get me the Apps I want (some cross compilers, prom burners etc.) but
- is not as clear cut as it once was.
-
-
- --
- --Chuck McManis Mr. NIS+ Sunsoft
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