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- From: bruce@blilly.uucp (Bruce Lilly)
- Subject: Re: Sendmail problem on AT&T unix 7300 (3b1).
- References: <1993Jan4.041940.8007@blilly.uucp> <1993Jan5.033457.27549@becker.GTS.ORG> <1993Jan6.051545.3526@gagme.chi.il.us>
- Organization: Bruce Lilly
- Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 01:44:59 GMT
- Message-ID: <1993Jan7.014459.14742@blilly.uucp>
- Reply-To: lilb@sony.compuserve.com (Bruce Lilly)
- Lines: 67
-
- In article <1993Jan6.051545.3526@gagme.chi.il.us>,
- posted to comp.sys.3b1,comp.mail.misc,
- wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer) wrote:
- >
- >Interesting thing is, that I DO NOT have a smail binary on the system!
-
- $ ls -li /bin/cp /bin/ln
- 71 -rwxr-xr-x 2 bin bin 4812 Jan 1 1970 /bin/cp
- 71 -rwxr-xr-x 2 bin bin 4812 Jan 1 1970 /bin/ln
- $
-
- If you execute "rm -f /bin/cp" (and you have sufficient permission for it to
- succeed), do you still have the "cp" program? Yes, you do; it's also called
- "ln"-- if you then execute "/bin/ln /bin/ln /bin/cp" everything will be back
- to normal. Similarly, if you execute "mv /bin/cp /usr/lib/sendmail", you
- haven't created sendmail.
-
- Just because the authors of smail elected to call a link to their program by
- the name "sendmail", doesn't make it become sendmail. It's still smail.
- It's fine to aspire to greatness, but aspirations and reality aren't
- necessarily the same.
-
- >I DO have a /usr/spool/smail directory AND a /usr/lib/smail directory,
- ^^^^^ ^^^^^
- These are dead giveaways that you have smail and not sendmail.
-
- >but my binary is sendmail which lives in /usr/bin/sendmail. In the
-
- sendmail is usually installed as /usr/lib/sendmail or /usr/sbin/sendmail
- (it's unlikely that you have a /usr/sbin on a 3B1, unless somebody made one;
- it's not standard under SVR2.2). sendmail usually uses /usr/spool/mqueue
- for queued mail files (/var/spool/mqueue recently). sendmail is also
- usually linked to programs named newaliases and mailq (and possibly
- others). sendmail requires a configuration file, usually located in
- /etc/sendmail.cf (possibly /usr/lib/sendmail.cf for old versions).
- If none of this sounds familiar, you almost certainly don't have sendmail.
-
- The other dead giveaway was your reference to ``version 3.1''. It is
- *extremely* unlikely that you have version 3.1 of sendmail, since a) it
- would be horribly ancient, and b) it was probably never released outside of
- UCB (the earliest one I've seen on a 3B1 was version 4.12). Current releases
- of sendmail are 5.67 (production version) and 6.5 (now in alpha test (may
- well be 6.6 or later by the time you read this)).
-
- On the other hand there have been several versions of smail. smail 3 was
- also known as smail 2.5. There is also a completely different smail 3.x
- which is currently somewhere around 3.1.27.1 (no doubt several smail fans
- which rush to provide different numbers). The latest version of smail, still
- in development is, paradoxically, smail 2.7. Don't try to make sense of any
- of the version numbers in this paragraph; it could be hazardous to your
- mental health.
-
- Have you run what(1) on the program you have which purports to be sendmail?
- Have you tried "sendmail -v -d0-99.1 -bt </dev/null"?
-
- I still stand by my original advice: get the sendmail binary for the 3b1
- which is available from the osu-cis or uunet archives (and other places) or
- get the UIUC/IDA sendmail sources and compile them. What you have now
- (regardless of what it is called) is clearly not working satisfactorily for
- you, else you would not have posted. It's time to junk it and put something
- useful in its place (unless you enjoy the challenge of dealing with your
- ongoing mail problems). Of course, you're free to do as you please, but you
- asked for advice, and I've given mine, along with justification for my
- position. Good luck to you, whatever you choose to do.
-
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- Bruce Lilly ...uupsi!monymsys!sonyd1!blilly!bruce
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