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- From: kirby@xerox.com (Mike Kirby)
- Subject: Re: Debugging the process
- Message-ID: <1993Jan4.145731.9530@spectrum.xerox.com>
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- Organization: Xerox Corporation, Webster NY
- References: <peterd.725811174@pjd.dev.cdx.mot.com>
- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:57:31 GMT
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- >kirby.roch803@xerox.com (Mike Kirby) writes:
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- >>Contrary to popular belief, software engineering is more management
- >>than engineering. If a stable management process exists, and no
- >>engineering exists, a stable product can still be delivered. And this
- >>is indepenedent of the engineering talent inthe organization.
- >
- >As an engineer who was under the impression that my employer was
- >better off if I come to work than if I stay home and draw my pay, I
- >find it hard to believe this statement.
- >
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- That is true. What I meant to say was that if stable management and
- no engineering *process* exists...
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- My point is that most of the difficulty comes in introducing and maintaining
- a stable management process. Engineers, given a stable environment can
- adapt to new engineering methodologies fairly quickly. Managing these
- methodologies and their application can be very difficultand is what the
- SEI helps with.
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- >Unfortunately, the SEI model concentrates on the engineering process,
- >and the management framework within which the engineering process
- >occurs, to the point of excluding consideration of the *engineering*
- >itself.
- >
- > Peter Desnoyers
- >--
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- One could say that the CMM is the Management/Engineering interface.
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