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- From: veen2976@mach1.wlu.ca (veenstra christopher)
- Subject: Scientific Paper Survey, results plus repost
- Message-ID: <C0nFw9.3z9@mach1.wlu.ca>
- Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
- Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:43:20 GMT
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-
- Scientific Paper Survey
-
- Well, I only got 6 replies (there's still time if you haven't sent me one)
- and the general opinion seems to be that most, or at least many, scientific
- papers are poorly written. I realize that 6 is not a sound basis for
- analysis but it's all I have to go on, so I'll just have to mention that
- when I'm presenting the data.
-
- Conclusions up to now: 4 of the 6 people stated that of the papers that they
- read, probably about 80% were poorly written, while one said that that 95%
- are well written, though that doesn't mean it's anything but "well-written
- garbage". The 6th person stated that there were some problems but
- attributed it to the writers' not having English as their native language.
- Only one person commented on the technical content of the papers, and
- he stated that, though not nearly as bad as the general opinions of the written
- aspect of the papers, the technical content was poor in a number of papers.
- He basically implied that there are some people writing papers, and not
- presenting their data in a concise and understandable (reproducable) manner.
- This was something that I wasn't expecting to see. I've always thought that
- people in the sciences have been known for stating just the facts, and
- explanations generally tend to be either mechanical, or very short winded.
- That writers would be presenting their data in a poor fashion didn't even
- occur to me. Still, only one person commented on this so I believe that
- poor technical content is probably not too common.
-
- Also, I found that 4 of the people who responded were basically accustomed
- to the written style of the papers that they read. At least, that's my
- interpretation. 2 people didn't want to waste their time trying to figure
- out what poorly written papers were trying to say, one going so far as to
- reject papers given to him due to their unreadability. The others seemed to
- say that the papers were not generally well written, but didn't go so far as
- saying that they would refuse to read them, which makes sense because there
- could be some useful information buried within them that might make it
- worthwhile going after.
-
- So far as the survey and the results go, I believe that this has been very
- beneficial study. The information that I have received is going to allow me
- to make a very interesting, and thought provoking presentation. If you have
- any further comments/questions feel free to email me at the address at the
- bottom of this message.
-
- Once again, let me thank you all for your time and trouble.
-
- Chris Veenstra
- veen2976@mach1.wlu.ca
-
- ------------------------
-
- Comments:
- These are the more quotable comments that people wrote to me. I've tried
- to pair them up, pro and con, to give an equal representation of what people
- said. I've still got until Thursday to gather data for my presentation so
- if you wish to send any more comments then feel free to, and I will be
- appending a copy of my survey to the end of this article to try to expand my
- data group further.
-
- Written Style:
- (pro)
- Unless the paper is extremely flowery or excessively dense, I don't
- worry to much about the style of the papers I read--if I can extract
- the information I'm interested in, then the papers is good enough.
-
- (con)
- Of the papers that I read or referee, a distressing fraction are well written.
- I have recently rejected two papers because they were so poorly written that I
- couldn't tell what the results were. Published papers tend to be better
- written (at least in terms of the mechanics of the English) but frequently
- have disappointingly little new in them.
-
- Technical Content:
- (con)
- > 1) Do you read/write/referee papers? For each that apply to you, what do
- > you look for?
- Read and Write: For both a look for clarity, in explinations, (all
- too often important assumptions are left out :-(. I also look to
- see that if a model or example is given and if enough data is given
- so that the readed could recreate the example. (Again, often data
- is omitted or vague, which makes me question the validity of the
- paper. which makes me wonder what they are trying to hide.) So I
- guess I look for clarity and completeness. If one gives derivations
- the should be complete enough that the casual user should be able
- to follow them. If one gives examples, then give all pertinate
- data. (A good example of vague data is when some one says that
- the operating speed was w_n/2.5, where w_n is the natural frequency,
- but don't tell you what w_n is or how it was computed.)
-
- <Author of survey comment> No one wrote about good technical content,
- though only one commented about poor content so I believe that we can assume
- that the others didn't see it as an issue. This would imply to me that the
- technical content of the papers is generally fairly good and probably well
- (or adequately) presented.
-
- ============================================================================
-
- Scientific Paper Survey
-
- 1) Do you read/write/referee papers? For each that apply to you, what do
- you look for?
-
- 2) Of the papers that you read or referee, what percent do you feel are
- well-written?
-
- 3) What is your position/company you work for? (This is so I'll know
- approximately what the technical level of the people replying is.)
-
- ============================================================================
-
- For those of you who missed the original survey, I'm trying to gather some
- opinions on the content of scientific papers. The data is being gathered for
- a presentation that I am going to make on Thursday regarding the written
- content of papers. If you have a few moments to spare, I would greatly
- appreciate your replying and telling me what you think. There seems to be
- some interest in the results, so I will repost the final results at the end
- of the week. Thank you for your time and trouble.
-
-
- Chris Veenstra
- veen2976@mach1.wlu.ca
- 4th Year, Physics and Computing
- Wilfrid Laurier University
- Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
-