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- From: martin@datacomm.ucc.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick)
- Subject: Re: Using RARP for Greater Security
- Message-ID: <1993Jan11.180037.22026@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu>
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- Organization: Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK
- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:00:37 GMT
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- I want to sincerely thank all who answered my questions about using RARP.
- Here is what you had to say.
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- Quoted material follows:
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- From: Tony Li <tli@cisco.com>
- Subject: Re: Using RARP for Greater Security
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- Disable ARP on the router attached to that interface. Add static ARP
- entries. Filter traffic that comes out of that interface.
-
- Tony
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- From: Lyndon Nerenberg <Lyndon.Nerenberg@unbc.edu>
- Subject: Re: Using RARP for Greater Security
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- Our plan is to install Beame & Whiteside TCP on our PC's. B&W provides
- support for BOOTP. By replacing the ROMs in your Ethernet card you can
- boot the PC's from your file servers. Using BOOTP allows you to maintain
- a central database of Ethernet MAC to IP address mappings. They can't
- bugger with this short of replacing the ROM's.
-
- Send e-mail to sales@bws.com for further information.
-
- --lyndon
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- From: Adrian Miranda <ade@vancouver.wsu.edu>
- Subject: Re: Using RARP for Greater Security
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- Well, I think all programs will allow you to change your
- configuration, though most take a bit more effort than WINQVTNET
- apparently does. You could obtain the source for NCSA telnet, and
- recompile it to force it to use rarp or bootp, but a student could
- always get their own copy of telnet from the Internet and use that.
-
- As far as I can tell, there's no really foolproof way to prevent
- someone from choosing their own IP number. Would it be enough to just
- use something like NCSA which requires editing a file? The only other
- thing I can think of is to force your UNIX systems and Routers to use
- static arp table entries for the PC ethernet numbers. That is, you
- would tell the UNIX system that a particular ethernet number and IP
- number are associated. Then the system would presumably ignore
- attempts by another machine (with a different ethernet number) to
- pretend to have that same IP number. However, some ethernet cards
- allow you to modify their ethernet numbers, so even that's not
- foolproof.
-
- By the way, if you're looking at RARP, you should also look at Bootp.
- It's much more powerful.
-
- Adrian Miranda
- ade@clark.edu
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- From: pcg@aberystwyth.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi)
- Subject: Using RARP for Greater Security
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- The best one is to give up on such goals. Simply put, how are you going
- to make sure that a fun loving student does not load its very own little
- TCP/IP module on your dos machine? I always carry around with me a
- floppy with a bootable system including NOS, PC GOPHER and TRUMPET, just
- in case :-).
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- It's practically impossible to stop people doing what they want with
- changing IP numbers, for example masquerading as any host they would
- like to pose (there are even some Ethernet cards which have programmable
- ethernet addresses). The only way out is cryptographic authentication.
- Kerberos...
-