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- From: dbarker@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker)
- Subject: Re: Just how old is CompSci anyway? (How many Nobel Prizes has IBM won?)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan6.214450.2096@spang.Camosun.BC.CA>
- Organization: Camosun College, Victoria B.C, Canada
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- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:44:50 GMT
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- ckincy@cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy) writes:
- : In article <1993Jan5.215350.16675@spang.Camosun.BC.CA> dbarker@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker) writes:
- : >ckincy@cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy) writes:
- : >[....]
- : >: Most people would say that Computer Science is not a science, but
- : >: a craft. [Read comp.org.eff.talk for more about this]. However,
- : >: even if it is a science, it's only been around for about 60 years
- : >: or so. Too early to break with tradition I suppose.
- : >
- : >60 years? What are you dating this from then?
- :
- : Well, ENIAC came out when? Mid-40s? I believe the work on it started
- : sometime in the mid-30s, in earnest. And there was also something
- : developed in Germany called "Plaenkalkul". A programming language
- : before there was a computer to implement it! [Although, this was an
- : isolated effort...]
-
- Ahem. I don't think work started on ENIAC in the mid 30s. The German
- development you are referring to is probably Karl Zuse's computer -
- the Elektron? from c1938.
-
-
- : You could be more liberal and call it 100 years old, going back to
- : Babbage's calculating thing that helped make the Census useful again.
- : [Before that machine, it was taking close to ten years to tabulate
- : the Census...]
-
- Wrong. Babbage's difference engine was designed to improve accuracy
- and speed of navigational tables. The analytical engine - which
- essentiall foreshadowed the von Neumann architecture - was never
- completed, and was in fact technologically not feasible at the time.
- This dates from c150 years ago.
-
- The system which improved the processing of the US census was Hermann
- Hollerith's punched card, but it wasn't really a computer.
-
- : Or, you could be less liberal, and call it 40 years old, starting with
- : the development of FORTRAN.
- :
- : 60 years is just as good as any other figure, in other words. :)
-
- I was thinking more in terms of 'science' and thus things like
- Turing's paper on computability (1936?) Church's lambda calculus
- (1940?). Where does the pushwon automata theory fit chornoligcally
- into this anyone?
-
-
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