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- From: ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent,comp.os.linux
- Subject: Re: Linux v. Coherent: Comments
- Message-ID: <930109484@ritz.mordor.com>
- Date: 9 Jan 93 22:48:05 GMT
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- Louis Giliberto (magus@drktowr.chi.il.us) wrote:
- OS/2> Michael K. Johnson (johnsonm@lars.acc-admin.stolaf.edu) wrote:
- OS/2> :
- OS/2> : In article <1ihc1iINNh6q@uwm.edu> rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller, Linux Device Registrar) writes:
- OS/2> :
- OS/2> : Y'know, I've been thinking about this... Folks are saying that the next
- OS/2> : release of Coherent will have *loads* of stuff it doesn't have yet:
- OS/2> :
- OS/2> : 1.) Graphics support
- OS/2> : 2.) The GNU GCC compiler
- OS/2> : 3.) TCP/IP Networking
- OS/2> : 4.) Sockets
- OS/2> : 5.) X Windows
-
- OS/2> Actually, except for the kernel itself, most of the Linux stuff is
- OS/2> ported from other places.
- OS/2>
- OS/2> And the other stuff, well, let's take a look at it.
- OS/2>
- OS/2> 1) Graphics support
- OS/2>
- OS/2> Harry, Udo, etc have this done with the bitmapped driver. MGR has been
- OS/2> ported from the linux port, and Harry rewrote the library to emulate
- OS/2> the Linux library using his driver. I read his driver. It's small
- OS/2> and elegant and works fine. Drivers wouldn't be able to be "filched"
- OS/2> anyhow for the most part.
-
- Not to take anything away from the efforts of Harry and Udo, but you cannot
- make use of this driver (for now) unless you purchase the device driver kit.
- Having "spoken" to Harry, it sounds like a really nifty thing to have though.
- Unfortunately, the vast majority of us don't have the DDK so we're stuck.
-
- OS/2> 2) GCC compiler
- OS/2>
- OS/2> Well, they have to make the source available, and according to the GNU
- OS/2> license, even if they ported from the linux port that's allowed. It will
- OS/2> show up in the source anyhow.
-
- Where is it? The GCC port has been in the "real soon now" stage for quite
- some time. Having the Gnu compiler around would certainly make porting
- all those great gnu tools less of a chore, no?
-
- BTW, I am finally going to break down and learn C (fortran just wasn't
- cutting it for me...hehe). I would like to learn on the GCC compiler.
- CAn someone recommend a good book for teaching yourself C?
-
- OS/2> 3) TCP/IP, NFS, etc.
- OS/2> 4) Sockets
- OS/2>
- OS/2> The hardest part here would be the Ethernet card driver, which is probably
- OS/2> a pain in the neck. Other than that, the client programs like FTP and
- OS/2> stuff are pretty simple. I wrote a mini FTP for class in summer school.
- OS/2> Did get, receive, and dir. Not too big a deal as long as you have sockets.
- OS/2> Like Mike said above, the libraries will take a long time. I'm not sure
- OS/2> about the internals of Coherent, but if it uses message passing, sockets
- OS/2> are pretty simple. They were more complicated for Linux since it uses
- OS/2> ye olde monolitihic style which gives it great performance. Ya basically
- OS/2> end up adding message passing to the kernel anyhow.
-
- I am anxiously awaiting the networking abilities. I would love to
- be able to connect to my feed site using a slip connection on a
- v.32bis modem. It wouldn't be a screaming connection, but it would
- make uucp look like a real crawler. It would definitely be worth
- the $100-200 investment for a generic ethernet card.
-
- OS/2> 5) Xwindows
- OS/2>
- OS/2> After 1,2,3,and4 we would probably be able to compile the Linux
- OS/2> version straight out. After all, X is pretty much hardware
- OS/2> independent after the libraries are done. But I think X will
- OS/2> take longer than promised.
-
- Yep. BTW, I used to be one of those people who thought "who would
- want to run that piggy ol' X on a lowly 486 box on a 14" monitor?"
- However, I ran it for a few minutes while testing out linux and
- I was very impressed. Even with only 8 megs of RAM, it was
- fairly snappy and powerful compared to windog.
-
- OS/2> What do you care if Linux ports run on Coherent anyhow? Won't that
- OS/2> mean most Coherent ports will run on Linux? More software for
- OS/2> everyone. Seems fair to me.
-
- I agree completely! I think it makes much more sense to cooperate
- than to bicker about whose OS is better "endowed." <grin>
-
- Cheers,
-
- Chris
-
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