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- From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
- Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,comp.security.misc,alt.privacy,alt.society.civil-liberty
- Subject: Re: Boycotting CERT because of the keystroke monitoring advisory?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan5.114722.5863@nntp.hut.fi>
- Date: 5 Jan 93 11:47:22 GMT
- References: <1993Jan4.212439.4278@nntp.hut.fi> <1ib0grINNhq3@early-bird.think.com>
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- Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
- Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
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- In-Reply-To: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
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- In article <1ib0grINNhq3@early-bird.think.com>, barmar@think (Barry Margolin) writes:
- >> But what CERT is doing is
- >>recommending unilateral announcement of "all users may be monitored
- >>all the time", with no negotation and no negotiated policy of
- >>watching/monitring only on "probable cause".
- >
- >My interpretation was that CERT was recommending that *if* you have a
- >policy where you might monitor input, that you should put this warning in a
- >login banner.
-
- I didn't see anything to this effect in the advisory - it was an
- unconditional recommendation the way I read it.
-
- >They were not advising for or against the monitoring policy
- >itself, nor specifying a particular justification for monitoring any given
- >conversation.
-
- This is true. In effect, they were not recommending monitoring, they
- were recommending a banner aimed to make it possible to legally
- monitor everything.
-
- > They were simply acknowledging that such monitoring takes
- >place, and advising how to reduce legal liability in such cases.
-
- The way I read the message the real contents was nothing like this at
- all.
-
- >Is that really so bad?
-
- I don't think it'd be that bad to recommend an announced policy/rules
- (binding to the operators performing the monitoring) which has the
- rules about how and when monitoring may be performed (when intruders
- are suspected etc.), but a blanket coverage for all monitoring is
- unacceptable to me.
-
- //Jyrki
-