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- From: dwivian@helena.stat.uga.edu (Dwivian Unterschreiber)
- Newsgroups: comp.misc
- Subject: Re: DVORAK keyboard?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan8.211305.13643@rigel.econ.uga.edu>
- Date: 8 Jan 93 21:13:05 GMT
- References: <1993Jan8.011726.1250@cs.cornell.edu> <1ij4h2INNocb@uwm.edu> <1993Jan8.192059.21262@mprgate.mpr.ca>
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- jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (John G Dobnick) writes:
- >>Was "slow down the typist" the reason for QWERTY? I don't know. Was
- >>"avoid mechanical jams" the reason? Probably. Are the two unrelated?
- >>The Devil's Advocate in me says "No!" In fact, I'll state that
- >>QWERTY _was_ developed to _quote_ "slow down the typist" _unquote_.
-
- In article <1993Jan8.192059.21262@mprgate.mpr.ca>
- vanderby@mprgate.mpr.ca (David Vanderbyl) writes:
- >bzzzzt. Wrongo.
-
- Bzzzzt. Wrongo.
-
- The method to reduce jams was twofold - move common type combinations
- apart so the typeheads couldn't strike too quickly behind one another,
- and place them so that they were difficult to type together at all
- (primarily by making same-finger keystroke usage required).
-
- >>someone _says_ they are not arranging they typewriter keys to "slow
- >>down" the typist, doesn't necessarily _mean_ that aren't doing that.
- >>Would you _admit_ that if you were selling a product?
- >You are completely missing the point here. No one is arguing that
- >QWERTY is not inherently slower than DVORAK. The fact is, QWERTY
- >was designed to prevent jams. Period. That it is slower on today's
- >electronic keyboards is just an unfortunate side effect.
-
- Nobody said this was for electronic keyboards. The METHOD USED TO
- PREVENT THE JAMS IS SIGNIFICANT. Once we had progressed beyond the
- common jam problem, be it by better mechanicals, or by complex
- electrics, or with word-processors and dot-matrix/inkjet/laser
- technology, they layout of the keyboard became a matter of convention
- and tradition.
-
- >You argument is similar to this:
- >Cars are designed to go fast. Going fast in a car often kills people.
- >Therefore, cars were designed to kill people.
-
-
- That is silly, and inherently incorrect. It is better to say that:
- Cars were designed to provide a more efficient and speedy travel from
- point to point.
- A side effect of the condition of the roadways was the common problem
- of cars flipping over or otherwise having to stop forward progress.
- This side effect was directly related to the speed of the driver
- (as well as the road surface, abilities of the driver, etc.)
- One way to prevent the driver from having these problems was the
- regulator, a speed limiting device. This method was employed for
- some time.
- Another method to reduce the problems was infrastructure improvement.
- This is a costly and time consuming project, but made a reasonable
- amount of sense.
- Once roadways were important enough to be placed under reasonable
- repair, the regulator was no longer required.
- As the desire for speed was strong, the regulator was quickly discarded
- and people were allowed to drive as fast as they wanted.
-
- In like manner, now the the problem of mechanical failure has been
- sidestepped by changes in technology and the work environment, the
- need for a speed reduction system has been mitigated. Of course,
- one can continue to drive their Mazerati with a 30KPH regulator, but
- I doubt they'd want to. Thus many of us are switching to DVORAK.
-
- I could extend your argument this way, if you like:
- Cars were designed to go fast. An unfortunate (matter of point of
- view) side effect is that people die. To prevent this laws were
- passed limiting the speed of cars to 55MPH, as the speed of impact
- was proven to be a leading cause of automotive fatalities. Once
- safety measures were in place (airbags, automatic seatbelts, dot-
- matrix printers..er...scratch that) that speed was relaxed to
- 65MPH. Should safety measures be put in place that PREVENT
- automotive deaths, there would be no need for a speed limit.
-
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