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- From: r.lightwood@trl.oz.au (Liron Lightwood)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
- Subject: Re: Calling 1-800 Can Cost You a Fortune
- Message-ID: <telecom13.20.4@eecs.nwu.edu>
- Date: 11 Jan 93 03:24:24 GMT
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- X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 13, Issue 20, Message 4 of 17
-
- So, what happens when you call one of these costly 1-800 numbers from
- a payphone? Do the phone company pick up the bill? Do you get asked
- to insert money? Or do you get a recorded message saying the number
- cannot be dialed?
-
- I understand that 1-900 numbers cannot be called from US payphones,
- but 1-800 numbers can. Does this apply for all 1-800 numbers
- available in the area where the call is made from?
-
-
- [Moderator's Note: What happened in the past was that the information
- providers resorting to this sleazy tactic (of issuing a bill to the
- caller after the caller dialed the 800 number) did attempt to send a
- bill to the owner of the payphone ... and of course, the 'owner' of
- the payphone (in effect, the subscriber) was telco itself ... telco
- would not pay the IP's, and the IP's quickly learned to consult a data
- base which lists payphone numbers, then refuse to do business with the
- folks calling from them. The IP's still get tripped up occasionally by
- COCOTS, (or actually, the COCOT owner gets the bill, he squeals like a
- pig and the IP has to eat the charges) so when these numbers get iden-
- tified, they also get added to the list of numbers not to be dealt
- with. I think the IP's have begun to circulate the 'untouchables' list
- among themselves as a mutual protection kind of thing. But in the
- early days of the 800-converted-to-900-or-worse racket, it sure was
- fun seeing how many charge-backs could be shoved up Mystic Marketing's
- corporate waste eliminator at one time. Calls went through to those
- astrologers, Tarot practitioners and 'counseling services' from every
- payphone in Chicago, I suspect, and probably from other cities as
- well. So how come the astrologers could not detect this little
- shortcoming in their scam from the beginning? :) PAT]
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