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- From: mingso@netcom.com (Ming Yau So)
- Subject: Re: A Telebit FAX upgrade FLAME (Was: "Re: WB Fax Upgrade")
- Message-ID: <1993Jan7.231020.10297@netcom.com>
- Keywords: Telebit FAX documentation
- Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
- References: <1993Jan6.052942.582@smoke.marlboro.vt.us> <1993Jan6.100623.15326@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> <1993Jan6.182313.22435@news2.cis.umn.edu>
- Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:10:20 GMT
- Lines: 40
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- In article <1993Jan6.182313.22435@news2.cis.umn.edu> alla0008@student.tc.umn.edu (Graham Allan) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan6.100623.15326@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> isolar!earle@elroy.JPL.NASA.GOV writes:
- >> [about lack of documentation for fax commands]
- >>In the future, I would appreciate it if Telebit would take into consideration
- >>the fact that a customer who pays Real Money for a PROM upgrade which contains
- >>new features deserves to have every one of those new features documented *fully
- >>and completely*, and does NOT deserve to have proprietary software solutions
- >>pushed upon him/her from vendors who apparently have been provided with this
- >>information. The customer deserves the right to have sufficient information
- >>provided to him/her in order to pursue their own software solution, be it free
- >>or otherwise.
- >
- >Actually, no fax modem I have seen has ever had any documentation on the
- >commands to control the fax capabilities. Admittedly, that's only a sample
- >of 2 different modems, but it looks as if it's standard practise not to
- >supply this information (possibly because its not useful for the average
- >end-user).
- >
- >You can get hold of documents describing the Class-1 and Class-2 protocols
- >from several BBS's - I saw a copy which had originated from Supra.
- >
- >Graham.
-
- If my memory serves well, I remembered when I read the Supra's doc (either on
- paper or from their BBS), it says that the documentations for Class 1 & 2
- fax protocols (V.17 & V.29 ??) are copyrighted by CCCIT, and it's CCCIT desired
- to not have these docs distributed freelyfrom the modem manufacturer, because
- CCCIT are selling these docs (very expensive, I recalled) to survive. And I
- think the docs described in the Telebit's doc might be these CCCIT docs. If
- yes, I think you guys shouldn't flame Telebit that much. Anyway, if you need
- those docs, I think you can buy them CCCIT directly, though they are likely
- to be expensive. BTW, I think all of the fax modems which conforms to the
- CCCIT standards use the same set of commands for basic fax capabilities (like
- the AT commands for low speed data modems), e.g. they all use AT+FCLASS=? to
- determined the supported fax protocols.
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