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- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 11:19:37 -0600
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- From: "CZIKO Gary A." <g-cziko@UIUC.EDU>
- Subject: Too Fast for Feedback?
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- [from Gary Cziko 930112.1800 GMT]
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- Avery Andrews 9201112.2108 asks:
-
- >I guess the obvious question to ask about any movements that do look
- >too fast for feedback is how they go under novel or unpredictable
- >dynamic conditions. E.g. how does the concert pianist make out with
- >lead weights attached to her fingers.
-
- If throwing a ball is fast enough for you, then the demonstration I did at
- the last CSG meeting might be of interest. It is quite simple and has the
- advantage over your example of not requiring a piano, pianist, nor little
- lead weights.
-
- I had a subject stand about 15 feet away from a blackboard on which I had
- drawn a circle of about 2 feet diameter. I then let the subject practice
- throwing a tennis ball underhanded until he was quite accurate in having
- the ball bounce off the blackboard within the circle.
-
- I then attached a long "rubber band" to the subject's wrist of his throwing
- hand (I made this out of 1/2-inch wide strips of rubber cut from old
- bicycle tubes and tied together) and would occasionally yank on it from
- various directions after the throwing action had started. I found that
- with Greg Williams as a subject, the disturbances had very little effect
- indicating that Greg was not using a blind, motor program for throwing.
- Issac Kurtzer did not do as well. It seems to me that he was trying to
- compensate for the expected disturbances by predicting them at a higher
- level and this would throw him off.
-
- It is even more interesting to be a subject for this demonstration. The
- experience is one of just "willing" to get the ball in the circle and the
- muscle of the arm seem to compensate on their own for the disturbances.
-
- --Gary
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