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- From: ucsatsd@ucl.ac.uk (Tim Dedopulos)
- Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body
- Subject: Re: voices
- Message-ID: <1993Jan12.131725.13720@ucl.ac.uk>
- Date: 12 Jan 93 13:17:25 GMT
- References: <C0oDI1.JLB@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> <93011.125124SRK106@psuvm.psu.edu>
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- In article <93011.125124SRK106@psuvm.psu.edu> SRK106@psuvm.psu.edu (Senthil Ramas Kumar) writes:
- >In article <C0oDI1.JLB@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, ijr@canard.uwaterloo.ca
- >(Ilana Jayne Shewchun) says: > Has anyone ever experienced a voice speaking
- >>to you as you began to relax deeply? Not a nice voice either (at least the
- >>one that 'speaks' to me isn't nice. Sort of a malevolent murmuring. I
- >
- >I would like the experienced folkx to comment a little on this phenomenon,
- >because I think, this is something that happens to almost to anyone who
- >starts to have oobe, i.e try to have a consious oobe. I have so far heard
- >lotsa voices, even some fool, poking me away at my ribs etc. Right now, I
- >
- >I am currently of the opinion that is our sub-consious creation that makes
- >it feel that things like this are happening. Another theory I have heard is
-
- Well, according to Ophiel, in "The Art and Practice of Astral Projection",
- Starting to move into OOBE will produce strange sounds. He says that this
- is because the sense of hearing is not carried over onto the higher
- planes, and that means that your mind tries to recreate some input, and
- just gets subconscious static. He asserts that the noises can take any
- form, including voices, malevolant, eerie, or even your mom, and get
- worse and worse, more and more disturbing, until eventually they peak
- and then just fade to a constant background hiss while you OOBE.
- Apparently, his 'final noise' sounded like his water heater blowing
- up. He says, anyway, to ignore the noises, voice or otherwise, as
- they are only static/subconscious rambling, and do not represent
- any being in any way, not even the self really.
-
- Tim.
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