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- Organization: Johannes Kepler University Linz - Computing Center
- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:59:47 CET
- From: <K3016E2@ALIJKU11.BITNET>
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- Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body
- Subject: Theoretical Discussion: Part Two
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- HELLO HERE, I'M AGAIN| LINZ, 1993-01-12
-
- The Theme I'm talking about this time has some practical consequences:
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- THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "ETHER-" AND "ASTRAL-PROJECTIONS":
- According to old traditions the individual can be splited into several
- bodies (Brennen):
-
- A) The physical body: Everyone knows it. It's build up with physical
- matter.
- B) The Ether-Body: It gives the physical body its shape and stability.
- You'll loose this body sometime after the physical death. (A second
- death). Its shape is always equal to that of the physical body.
- BUT the ether-body will never loose a arm, a finger,....( It is
- always complete - all life long|). Phantom-limb-pains are a conse-
- quence of this.
-
- C) The "Astral-Body": Is totally different.
- It has a "basic"-shape not equal to that of the ether-body but you
- can change his form into what ever you wish only by thinking to do
- so.
-
- These two bodies are build up with non-physical "finer" matter.
- Especially the "astral-matter" has laws not comparable to that known in
- physics. Thoughts creat forms not hands|
- Dreams also take place in the astral-sphere.
-
- D) "Higher" Mental-Body/ies: Sometimes called the "self". Robert Monroe
- mentioned in "Far Journeys" that he made journeys without any body (|||).
- He was just what may be called pure consciousness and left back a
- "second" non-physical body.
-
- All these bodies (exept the physical) are built with non-physical matter /
- energy and so noone can measure anything with conventional measuring
- instrumens. Befor saying anything about non-physical matters scientists
- should think over this.
- REMARK: Dr. Duncan Mc Dougall determined the weight of the ether-body with
- 60...75 gramms.
-
-
- ETHER-PROJECTIONS:
- The ether-body and all the other bodies leave the physical. It's important
- for the seperating process that the you can't move your physical body,
- because the ether-body is primarly responsible for the physical motions.
- (Remember stories about people which are paralyzed without having any
- physical defects|). So all methods which make the body immmovable can be
- used.
- You can go where ever you wish BUT you'll always stay in the physical
- universe and you may feel the little weight of the ether-body.
- Maybe you feel or see the astral-"cord" which connects the ether and
- physical body.
- REMARK: I belief that a little part of the ether-body remains in the
- physical and is linked with the rest of the ether-body by the astral-
- "cord". If the astral-cord is torn the rest of the ether-body is free and
- the physical body begins to dissolve.
- The ether-body leaves the physical every night (and sometime during a
- dream - then you'll find some typical dream-symbols. - See Part One|)
- to get fresh non-physical energy. (comparable to a battery).
-
- ASTRAL-PROJECTIONS:
- The astral-body and (all) the mental-body/ies go away and the physical
- and the hole ether-body stay back.
- To get an "astral-projection" you must just releax your body and mind
- or you've an ether-projection and then "set your astral-body free".
- (REMARK: someone mentioned in this group having an OOBE within an OOBE -
- that's the explainations|)
- THE "ASTRAL-PLANE" AND THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE ARE OPEN TO YOU. - VISIT
- who ever you wish (dead or alife)|
- Your dreams also happen in the asral-plane but all things are created
- by you. (that's the reason why dream-interpretations works).
- Read Brennan and you'll know more about the astral-body and the astral-
- plane|
-
- "MENTAL-PROJECTIONS":
- The following ideas are mine but the I hope they may be useful to someone:
-
- Your (higher) "mental"-body(ies) are "set free". This requires an (what
- may be called) higher spiritual development. So this will not happen very
- often and reported. - I think Monroe is one of those people. He visited
- worlds beyond space and time - worlds of "pure light and love".
- The way to do this: Never stop developing your mind| (This could last
- many years.) Never say you are at the top of your development. (That's
- very hard as you know).
-
- Now back to the earth. - There are so many things I didn't tell you but
- I hope you know now what OOBE's are.
-
- Josef P}hringer
- physics-student, Austria
-
- P.S.: Maybe I'll find time in the future and then I'll tell you my
- thoughts about the consciousness of man.
-
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