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- From: kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie)
- Subject: Abstract of CAF-News 02.61
- Message-ID: <1993Jan11.050356.14933@eff.org>
- Originator: kadie@eff.org
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- Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:03:56 GMT
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- [See the end of this article for information about obtaining the full
- CAF-News electronically and about CAF-News in general.]
-
- Topics discussed in CAF-News 02.61:
-
- 1-4 continue the discussion of issues surrounding alleged child
- pornography posted by a Cornell student to the Usenet
- 5-8 discuss when/if it's appropriate for a sysadmin or superuser to
- cancel someone else's articles
- 9-12 report computers-and-academic-freedom issues at the American
- Library Association, University of Illinois, the Akron BBS,
- and Fresno State University
-
- Abstract of CAF-News 02.61:
- [Week ending December 6, 1992
-
- ========================== KEY ================================
- The words after the numbers are a short PARAPHRASE of the
- article, NOT AN OBJECTIVE SUMMARY and not necessarily my opinion.
- ===============================================================
-
- [We desperately need new guest (or regular) editors, for information
- send email to kadie@eff.org. - Carl]
-
- Notes 1-4 continue the discussion of issues surrounding alleged child
- pornography posted by a Cornell student to the Usenet.
-
- 1. "The copy I have of the law regarding child pornography goes on for 3
- *pages* regarding the recordkeeping requirements." Namely, "you have to keep
- records on *all* models [... and these] have to include the legal name and
- *any other names EVER used by the person in the picture. And these records
- must be available to the goverment for examination at reasonable hours and
- times. And you must have a statement included with the distributed item(s)
- telling where the records are and certifying that all people were of legal
- age."
- <1992Nov30.190522.13734@qiclab.scn.rain.com>
-
- 2. "I have spoken with some of those responsible for the restriction of the
- alt.*.erotica newsgroups here at Cornell. I don't believe that the _only_
- reason these groups were cut off was because of legal investigation. I know
- that if I was responsible for the newsstand here, and was aware that it was
- being directly abused (illegally so), that the easiest and most effective way
- to deal with the problem is to simply cut off the newsgroup. Cornell is in
- NO WAY obligated to provide those newsgroups to the Cornell community, in the
- same way that it's not obligated to carry 'Playboy' in the circulars at the
- undergrad library."
- <1992Dec2.055703.10745@tc.cornell.edu>
-
- 3. "You may have inside information, but the only public statment was that
- a.b.p.e was cut simply because a single article in it was being
- investigated." Now it's true that "Cornell is not obliged to respect academic
- freedom. [...] But if the university desires to follow academic freedom then
- it must refrain from removing resources at the merest hint of questionable
- legality. Cornell is not obligated to subscribe to Playboy. But if they do
- have a subscription, and there is a protest against it, academic freedom
- forbids them to cancel the subscription."
- <1992Dec2.160210.5928@news.columbia.edu>
-
- 4. Well, then, what *can* a university do to discourage students from
- storing/displaying objectionable pictures? "A rather low quota, plus a disk
- that's continuously on the brink of overflowing," says one sysadmin. "You
- forgot the result from a 'du' listing on all student accounts, sorted by
- size, printed out regularly, stuck on the wall at the terminal room
- entrance," writes another. "Peer pressure does wonders sometimes."
- <1fnnnsINN8ps@iraul1.ira.uka.de>
-
- Notes 5-8 discuss when/if it's appropriate for a sysadmin or superuser to
- cancel someone else's articles.
-
- 5. "By screening articles and newsgroups the University may *increase* its
- liability. (Aside: Elimination of liability should not be the University's
- only goal.)"
- <Byr9Kv.7wB@cs.uiuc.edu>
-
- 6. But how about when: "[1] Someone forges a posting in your name.
- (This has happened to me.) [2] You run an anonymous contact service
- and one of its users asks you to cancel a posting. (This has happened
- to me.) [3] You are the newsadmin for your site, and one of your users
- posts copyrighted software to alt.sources. (This has happened to
- me.)"
- <ByuEHv.Hn7.2@cs.cmu.edu>
-
- 7. Or: "1) An excessively large article was posted to a discussion group
- (usually uuencoded GIFs or the like). 2) A site (usually fidonet) starts
- reposting old articles with new IDs. 3) A forged sendsys comes out."
- <1992Dec6.104355.1025@ms.uky.edu>
-
- 8. Perhaps these are valid exceptions, but really, "the question of
- canceling other people's articles boils down to a question of
- ownership and authority. By the time something has propagated it is
- outside of the sphere of authority of anyone but the individual admins
- of the systems the article is stored on. [... In] almost all other
- cases I would consider someone canceling articles as a violation of
- *my* domain of authority: my newsspool. If you cancel an article that
- you consider illegal, for example, it makes me want to say: 'Hey, what
- are you doing? Do you have a warrant? Who gave you the authority to
- mess with data stored on my disks?' I mean, how would you feel if you
- had some pirated software on your PC, and your neighbor were to just
- walk into your home and start erasing it? I believe that in the the
- USA at least that's even more illegal than software piracy."
- <ByuG25.A5v@mtholyoke.edu>
-
- Notes 9-12 report computers-and-academic-freedom issues at the American
- Library Association, University of Illinois, the Akron BBS, and Fresno State
- University.
-
- 9. The American Library Assn.'s "Library Bill of Rights" condemns the
- exclusion of materials "because of the origin, background, or views of those
- contributing to their creation[.]" Is this the same ALA that approved
- "boycotts of library materials published in Namibia and South Africa in 1987,
- on the grounds that it would 'undermine the struggle for human rights in
- South Africa'?" And which felt that American publishers shouldn't ship books
- to those two countries for the same reason?
- <ByK05F.MJo@ddsw1.mcs.com>
-
- 10. Meanwhile at the University of Illinois, "Two local attorneys
- discussed their experiences with the University's discipline system
- and its inequities Monday at the Student Government Association's task
- force on the student discipline system. One of the attorneys said
- that "the procedures have basically stayed the same" for seven or
- eight years but recently "they started limiting what an attorney could
- do" at a discipline hearing. The attorney suspect it's because six
- years ago a discipline committee made a decision before hearing the
- case, and "attorneys were very active in exposing the fix."
- <1992Nov30.211557.1480@m.cs.uiuc.edu>
-
- 11. "You may already know about the BBS 'sting' six months ago in Munroe
- Falls, OH for "disseminating matter harmful to juveniles." Those charges were
- dropped for lack of evidence. Now a trial date of 1/4/93 has been set after
- new felony charges were filed, although the pretrial hearing revealed no
- proof that *any* illegal content ever went out over the BBS, nor was *any*
- found on it." (A summary of the Akron BBS case follows.)
- <921202164908_71756.2116_DHG64-1@CompuServe.COM>
-
- 12. Here's the computer use policy for Fresno State University, which insists
- that all users learn to perform "password maintenance and file and directory
- protection measures" on their accounts. Not that this will secure their
- accounts, since "Department faculty and staff may access others' files when
- necessary for the maintenance of the computing facilities" (in fact, nowhere
- in this policy does FSU mention *its* responsibility to the overall security
- of its systems). Oh, and "electronic mail and other electronic communication,
- will not be used to annoy others." (Just to be sure, FSU will punish any and
- all "obscene, abusive, or threatening messages.")
- <9212011859.AA09215@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu>
-
- - Aaron Barnhart]
-
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