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- From: kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
- Subject: [soc.culture.indian, et al.] Hi there fella ! (RE: STOP OBSCENE POSTINGS, FINAL WARNING !!)
- Message-ID: <C0I8yw.1GD@cs.uiuc.edu>
- Followup-To: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
- Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
- Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:25:44 GMT
- Lines: 94
-
- [A repost - Carl]
-
- From: dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
- Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
- Subject: Hi there fella ! (RE: STOP OBSCENE POSTINGS, FINAL WARNING !!)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan7.123230.46188@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
- Date: 7 Jan 93 12:32:29 CST
-
- In article <1igt67INN1ec@aludra.usc.edu>, moinuddi@usc.edu (Asif Moinuddin)
- writes:
- > ************************************************************************
- >
- > This is an execllent idea proposed by D.Pereira to maintain the
- > sanity of this elctronic media. Surely, one can express the difference
- > of opinions. Most of us seem to have no stuff to say, hence the cheap
- > attempt to gain publicity through obscene postings.
- >
- > Every reader has a right to write to system administrator against
- > obscene postings who will take the necessary disciplinary actions. Please,
- > post the following memo periodically to prevent future obscene postings.
- >
- > Although the desi community in US is supposed to be highly educated,
- > these kinds of postings do not reflect that AND MORE IMPORTANTLY
- > DEMEANS SUCH A USEFUL MEDIUM FROM REALLY SERVING AS FORUM OF OF MEANINGFUL
- > DISCUSSIONS.
- >
- >
- > MEMO
- > *********
- >
- >
- > TO ALL who post *really* obscene and offensive material
- >
- > FROM: D. Pereira and others,
- > Indignant and frustrated readers
- >
- > REF: DEADLINE TO STOP POSTING OFFENSIVE OR RACIST MATERIAL ON
- > SOC.CULTURE.INDIAN
- >
- >
- > After Tuesday, January 5, 1992 at midnight, if I see *any* postings or replies
- > to postings that are offensive, racist or intolerable to me, I will forward
- > copies to your respective system administrators, who will then decide what
- > action, if any, to take against you. In effect, it will be your sys ads who
- > will then determine if the material is unsuitable for public medium, not me.
- > He/she may then decide whether you should be denied write access to USENET or
- > be further penalized. (Some of the postings seen recently may even be used as
- > evidence for civil/criminal litigation.)
- >
- > If any other sci readers out there decide to support this action, then please
- > express your opinion. A suggestion: extract this memo and post it again under
- > your own name. Do please take the effort to type the SUBJECT heading over,
- > rather then doing a REPLY. This way you will convey to the offenders that you
- > feel as strongly about this.
- >
- > A final note to the persons mentioned above - please take this very seriously.
- > It is NOT a joke.
- >
- >
- >
- My Dear Asif Moinuddin:
-
-
- Thanks for your "puritan" expletives. I must say that your naiveness
- knows no bounds. Please go and read the Bill of Rights and the 1st
- Amendment. There is something called Freedom of Expression (Speech).
- Go see a lawyer and try to find out what I am saying. FYI, I did make
- an enquiry about what can I post thru' both legal agencies and the
- Ombudsperson plus Sys. Admin. They only told me that *it might be good
- if I was decent* - but no one cannot force upon you what you should
- write. That would be clear violation of what U.S laws exactly offer.
-
- Therefore, without going into pedantic moorings with a "mullah" (pun)
- like yourself, I would say that if there is *anything* ever against
- my friends, I shall ask them to take the legal route - because it is
- extremely prohibitive to choke someone's freedom. This matter can be
- settled with the ombudspersons in respective universities. Moreover,
- as you have stated - that in U.S one must respect one's Freedom of
- Expression. (Writing to my sys. admin. *will not* help because I had
- a lengthy discussion with him on the proceedures for posting.)
-
- I admit that of late U of Kansas, Colorado School of Mines has been
- getting bad press. However, this can be stopped only by two ways -
- (1) Listening to what I have to say, and, (2) use a KILL file.
- You cannot argue that you do not have the freedom of ignoring an offensive
- post. (That would be a baloney). Use KILL files, or, better still press "N".
-
- - I think that you already knew that, but, probably you forgot ---
-
- deb chatterjee
- (a good samaritan)
- --
- Carl Kadie -- I do not represent any organization; this is just me.
- = kadie@cs.uiuc.edu =
-