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- From: guru@halcyon.com (Dennis Wicks)
- Subject: Re: Libertarianism...
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.041928.1958@nwnexus.WA.COM>
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- References: <ARCHER.553.725666589@utkvm1.utk.edu> <1hqjouINN49c@spim.mti.sgi.com> <1992Dec30.030847.25154@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 04:19:28 GMT
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- Interesting observations, but it doesn't belong where it wound
- up.
- Please edit the news groups line!
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- In article <1992Dec30.030847.25154@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu (Phil Scarr) writes:
- >In article <1hqjouINN49c@spim.mti.sgi.com> mpolen@suntory.mti.sgi.com (Mike Polen) writes:
- >>|>
- >>|> I disagree. A society can make no promises or take any acts, only
- >>|> individuals can. Problems can only be caused or resolved by individual
- >>|> action, or by individuals acting collectively. To say that "society made me
- >>|> a criminal" is inaccrurate, dishonest, and demeaning to the individual.
- >>|> Only the criminal can choose to commit crimes.
- >>|>
- >>So Ted, by your reasoning slavery is a perfectly valid activity for a
- >>society that choses it. If you are a slave, and you want freedom, and
- >>society defines any act of taking freedom a crime, then that society
- >>has certainly created the criminal. Of course you can decide to accept
- >>being a slave to avoid trouble, but that would be a crime against
- >>yourself that society would also have caused.
- >>
- >>I find it humorous that libertarians can believe that complete
- >>individual freedom is possible without infringing on
- >>anyone elses freedom.
- >
- >It really is amusing how the libertarian philosophy has individuality
- >springing from the womb, with no social intervention or conditioning
- >involved at all. It sounds like a simple case of denial.
- >
- >>--
- >>These opinions are usually my own, sometimes my dog's,
- >>occasionaly my (grown) children's, never my employer's.
- >
- > -Phil
- >--
- >PHIL SCARR \ We are Microsoft... / (o) 804.243.0229
- > University of / OS/2 is irrelevant. \ (f) 804.243.0290
- > Virginia, \ UNIX is irrelevant. / prs9k@Virginia.EDU
- > Neurosurgery / Openness is futile. \ prs9k@Virginia.BITNET
- > HP-UX is my life!\ Prepare to be assimilated... / ...uunet!virginia!prs9k
- >
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