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- From: bud@mtek.com (Bud Hovell)
- Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.misc
- Subject: Re: What is United States of America like?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.182653.25965@mtek.com>
- Date: 29 Dec 92 18:26:53 GMT
- References: <BzM8u5.JM3@unix.amherst.edu> <BzMDI7.7JI.2@cs.cmu.edu> <1992Dec22.163530.15699@mtek.com> <1992Dec23.033754.1088@Princeton.EDU> <1992Dec23.173821.64@mtek.com> <1992Dec28.230531.15298@pony.Ingres.COM>
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- garrett@Ingres.COM (MMMMM...ESSENCE OF GELFLING) writes:
-
- >In article <1992Dec23.173821.64@mtek.com>, bud@mtek.com writes...
- >>You may wish to consult the Israeli statute regarding prosecution
- >>of war criminals who conducted their unspeakable acts not only in
- >>Germany, but in Poland and other countries -- none of them Israel.
-
- >Those are war criminals. They are fugitives from "international law".
-
- Certainly you cannot be unaware that there were several countries
- which refused extradition of such persons -- which again makes the
- point that sovereign nations can pretty much pass whatever laws they
- may choose, and ignore laws of other countries (or combinations there-
- of) which they disagree with. Thus "sovereign" nations.
-
- >Not just Isreali law. Also, Isreal doesn't invade countries and kill
- >thousands of civilians in order to get them.
-
- It is *ISRAELI* law under which these acts have been carried out, not
- international law, which does not provide for such acts as the abduc-
- tion of Eichmann. Nor raid on Entebbe. Nor aerial bombing of Saddam's
- nuclear plant. Whether you wish to mark such events as "invasion" is
- up to you. I also assume your reference to "thousands" springs from a
- personal claim upon artistic license.
-
- >>>>Noriega was not tried on the basis of a treaty violation, since none
- >>>>had occurred.
- >>>Then why did we invade Panama at all?
- >>
- >>Based on the treaty, which provided the U.S. the right to defend the
- >>Canal against hostile threats. In this case, Noriega's gang.
-
- >But Noriega never did break the treaty.
-
- That is your judgement, and it may even be that the incoming government
- may choose to consult with you on future decisions about treaty enforce-
- ment. Anything would seem possible.
-
- But it is not in doubt whether the United States did or did not have the
- treaty right to defend, under arms, the Canal against "threats" (as well
- as outright acts) hostile to Canal security.
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