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- From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
- Subject: Re: Obedience v. Breed (was mutts & purebreds)
- References: <1992Dec10.161303.26523@unislc.uucp> <1992Dec17.143031.9508@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> <168C18D3B.CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu>
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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:59:00 GMT
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- In article <168C18D3B.CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu>, CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu
- (Chris Barnes) wrote:
-
- > In an ideal world, conformation is as equally important to a breed
- > as obediance (and hunting ability if applicable).
-
- Yes, yes, yes (herding tests for me, please !!)
-
- > Then explain to me, why part of that breed standard states that the
- > dogs characteristics should emphasise it's ability to hunt (in goldens
- > and labs) (note: I don't have a copy of the standard with me, so pleas
- > forgive any paraphrasing here) and yet goldens with exceptionally long
- > coats seem to be prefered in the show ring. The basic fact is that
- > the breed standard is often ignored as a basis of judging on the bench
- > and it becomes nothing more than a beauty contest (and popularity
- > contest between handlers).
-
- Another example for "Chris' side" on this one....take the ACD. Alot
- of ACDs in the show ring are way too tall (can't duck quickly enough
- to avoid a cow's striking hoof) for any herding. Since our breed standard
- does not have a disqualification for height the judges don't pay any
- attention to it....if they would only think back to the dog's *purpose*
- they should be able to realize that "leggy" is not good in the ACD.
- Another example.....the ACD's head is *specifically* built for
- taking a blow to the forehead region by angry cattle. FAR too many
- ACDs in the show ring today have a *very* buggy eye...what happens
- to buggy eyes when they are jarred (even slightly) ? Yes, they
- POP OUT !! Not a pretty thought :-), but the judges certainly don't
- have that in mind !! Then you have the straight-stifled dogs who
- certainly couldn't work from dusk to dawn here in Central Illinois,
- let alone in the Australian Outbak......................
-
- I am primarily a conformation person, I do believe in also putting
- (at least) CDs on all my dogs. I do not have the resources to
- train for herding tests/trials (yes, I do draw the line at "condo
- cattle") myself, but I do plan on sending my kids to another ACD
- enthusiast that does.
-
- >
- >
- > (gee, I wonder if that means I'm going to be flamed on 2 seperate
- > threads at the same time in this group ?).
-
- I'm with you on this one Chris !! Beauty (and politics) sometimes
- win out over function in the conformation ring. *sigh*
-
- Our AKC breed video specifically states (and emphasizes):
-
- "FORM FOLLOWS FUNCTION" !!
-
- >
- > -----------------------------------------------------
- > Chris Barnes | President - Bryan/College Station
- > cbarnes@tamvm1.tamu.edu | Retriever Club.
- > (409) 846-3273 (home) | "Dedicated to the betterment of
- > (409) 845-4437 (work) | the retrieving breeds"
-
- Kathy
- --------------------
- Katwala Australian Cattle Dogs - Home of Oreo, Yonder, Double Stuff, Rowdy
- and 7 adorable little ACD monsters that are (thankfully) "just visiting"
- !!!
- Kathy_Buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu
-