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- From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
- Subject: Re: Prayer (was Re: Re^6: Atheism and Intelligence)
- Organization: AT&T
- Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 20:29:42 GMT
- Message-ID: <1993Jan1.202942.28004@cbnewse.cb.att.com>
- References: <1992Dec30.021017.24365@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> <5skPwB1w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
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- In article <5skPwB1w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> waldo@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Todd J. Dicker) writes:
- >arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
- >
- >> In article <cJmkwB2w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> waldo@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (To
- >> >I try to look beyond the literal meaning of the prayer. "Blessed are
- >> >You, raiser of the dead," is not taken any more literally than prayers
- >> >asking for rain. The phrases we add during the winter to bring rain
- >> >perform an important function in attuning ourselves to the cycle of
- >> >nature, to contemplating the frailty of life and our need for life
- >> >sustaining processes, and bring our thoughts to Israel where the rain is
- >> >supposed to fall. We don't really expect that it will rain because we
- >> >added the phrases, but it is the EFFECT of saying the phrases that shapes
- >> >our mind and spirit while we pray.
-
- This sounds pretty desperate, but I have to admit that it is possible.
-
- >Not even close, and your suggestion that the body of literature on
-
- How and why?
-
- >tefillah, which dates back to the formation of the liturgy and contains
- >commentary by some of those who composed the prayer service and those who
-
- I'm not familiar with the level of credibility of "those". Were they
- individuals who had done something previously that make us tend to believe
- them?
-
- >altered it from time to time is a half-hearted, after-the-fact
- >explanation is ridiculous and ignorant of the complexity and thoroughness
- >of said literature.
-
- Could you be more specific? How, relatively, complex and thorough is
- this literature compare to other literature?
- >
- >You're way off the mark, bud.
-
- In all honesty, you'll have to be more specific than that to sway
- me, personally.
-
- GMS
-