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- From: waldo@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Todd J. Dicker)
- Subject: Re: Re^6: Atheism and Intelligence
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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:12:23 GMT
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- mitch@novavax.UUCP (Mitch Silverman) writes:
-
- > I must disagree with you, however, about the avowed intention of
- > the Reform and Conservative liturgy--the Reform liturgy
- > especially is *excruciatingly* clear, in its English component,
- > in prayers that glorify and ask for the intercession (directly or
- > indirectly) of an omnipotent, male deity in the lives of the
- > congregation members. This may indeed be "merely" the literal
- > meaning of the prayers, and the "sub-structure and essence of the
- > prayers" may well be more important--that's how I feel, at any
- > rate. The liturgy, however, does *not* reflect this
- > deconstructed importance in any obvious way-- unlike the
- > Reconstructionist liturgy.
-
- I try to look beyond the literal meaning of the prayer. "Blessed are
- You, raiser of the dead," is not taken any more literally than prayers
- asking for rain. The phrases we add during the winter to bring rain
- perform an important function in attuning ourselves to the cycle of
- nature, to contemplating the frailty of life and our need for life
- sustaining processes, and bring our thoughts to Israel where the rain is
- supposed to fall. We don't really expect that it will rain because we
- added the phrases, but it is the EFFECT of saying the phrases that shapes
- our mind and spirit while we pray.
- >
- > Now, about this siddur of yours....
-
- Sure. It was compiled by eliminating the English translation of the
- prayer service found in most siddurs and replacing it with a compendium
- of sources on tefillah. Approximately forty sources of knowledge on the
- liturgy is used, and the information is presented alongside the prayer so
- that study can accompany your prayer, and you can get a deeper
- understanding of the prayers you are saying. It was compiled by myself
- for Camp Ramah in Conover Wisconsin, a Hebrew speaking religious camp run
- by the Conservative movement. You should be able to get a copy through
- them, however they aren't open until next June. I have a draft that
- doesn't have the nice typesetting and well laid-out pages, but I can be
- convinced to send a copy or have one made at an area copy shop (since
- you're down the street).
-