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- From: irilyth@fenris.claremont.edu (Josh Smith)
- Subject: Re: "new age" label
- Message-ID: <1992Dec27.235300.28597@muddcs.claremont.edu>
- Originator: irilyth@fenris
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- Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:53:00 GMT
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- W. Chris Graham (grahamw@cpsc.ucalgary.ca) writes:
-
- > [I'm posting this for Chris at his request; he sent me e-mail saying that he
- > had no posting access and asking me to post this for him.]
-
- Actually, I wrote that; Pnews ate my Originator line, replacing it with the
- fairly uninformative "irilyth@fenris". Just wanted to make it clear who that
- "I" in the previous comment referred to.
-
- W. Chris Graham really did write:
-
- > All labeling of just about any worthwhile music is inherently imperfect and
- > somewhat arbitrary. [snip]
-
- Good examples, and I agree; this is true for any sort of classification
- scheme with fuzzy borders. Is "The Difference Engine" cyberpunk or alternate
- history? Or both? Back to music, I wouldn't describe Clannad as either "new
- age" or "contemporary instrumental", personally; their early work seems
- definitively "folk" to me, and their newer efforts fit into something I
- usually describe as "rock with a heavy traditional influence".
-
- But back to the original point, the futility of classification. It's often
- more useful to answer "What kind of music does Thusandso play?" by comparing
- them to groups the questioner has heard of--for example, I can say that
- Clannad is similar to Enya, but with a little more mainstream-rock sound,
- and if the questioner has heard of Enya, they'll maybe have an idea what I'm
- talking about. If I can't come up with any groups to compare Thusandso to,
- the best thing to do is probably to hand the person an album to borrow, and
- pick up a new fan for the band... (grin)
-
- > I call music "music", and would love record stores to be purely
- > alphabetized from front to back.
-
- That would actually be kind of cool. It would sure make it a hell of a lot
- easier to find things. How often do you think people go into record stores
- and pick a random artist they've never heard of based on what section they
- find the album in? Not very often, I'd guess; I don't think record stores
- would lose much by breaking down their classification scheme.
-
- Exceptions might be: (a) Classical, which is a pretty distinctly defined
- subset, and differs from other music in that you often want to choose a
- particular performance in addition to a particular composer; (b) movie and
- play soundtracks, which could sometimes be sorted by artist but might better
- be sorted by title, and thus sorted separately from the artist listings
- (perhaps artists well known for making soundtracks (TD, Morricone, Elfman,
- Williams, etc) could have a tag in their sections saying "<artist> has also
- done soundtracks for Blah, Blah II, and Return of Blah in 3-D"); (c) multi-
- artist compilations, which already generally live in a separate section
- anyway.
-
- So, anyone want to start A Better Record Store? (grin)
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