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- From: fullerto@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (timothy dwight fullerton)
- Subject: Re: Carping and Per Diem
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- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:59:57 GMT
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- In article <2csJwB3w165w@dorsai.com> idealord@dorsai.com (Jeff Harrington) writes:
-
- >
- >I find this a bit naive. Pop musicians are interested in becoming
- >"popular" and in making "money."
-
-
- Well, I would argue that it is prejudiced to assume that all pop
- musicians are in it for the money. Certainly SOME are; Madonna freely
- admits it and writes little or none of her own material. Others have
- little or no realistic expectation of it even paying for itself, but
- write and play because they love it and feel the need to express what
- they have to offer -- for example, myself.
-
-
- > Come on, get real! Composers who
- >create music which is intended to please their mentors or who are trying
- >to impress a tenure committee are just as phony.
-
- I proudly stand beside you in ridiculing sycophants. I reiterate,
- though, that not everyone is like that.
-
-
- >
- >Give me a break. The reason that the public doesn't go to contemporary
- >concerts (remember the riots at the Rite of Spring premiere, everyone
- >used to go that was a classical music lover) is because they've been
- >scared away by music which was written in the name of "progress." This
- >is not a immature opinion - it's a fact. You should check out the
- >anti-new music postings in rec.music.classical for a taste of how our
- >culture's support for the university patronage system has _destroyed_
- >interest in new music - except, of course, new music which is really rock
- >music.
-
- I would attribute that more to the emergence of other forms of
- high fidelity media. I argue that fewer people go to classical music
- concerts of ANY kind now. In most of the cities I have been the
- classical music performance industry came no where near to supporting
- itself. Hell, I don't go very often. It can be hot, stuffy, and
- uncomfortable being rammed into a tiny seat in a suit for four hours,
- and ticket prices can be way too high (Depending on where you live...I
- know in L.A. you can buy a ticket to the Hollywood Bowl for $5, sit on a
- bleacher, and dress however you want -- ooh that was the life). If there
- is the slightest risk that I don't like what will be played there is no
- way in hell that I will go and subject myself to that. I will buy a tape
- though, or watch the Met on TV. What alternative high fidelity media
- were available as cultural entertainment when the Rite of Spring was
- premiered.
-
- Just because people don't go to concerts, or those that do go
- don't like what is played at the time, doesn't mean that the composer is
- not making a contribution to -- or as you seem to assert, undermining
- the progress of -- art. (S)he may or may not be. Time will tell, not
- attendance at the premiere.
-
- For example, The Rite of Spring is played on the radio here
- regularly.
-
- I must admit that I am not subscribed to Rec.music.classical.
- Thank you for pointing it out. I will investigate those arguments.
-
- Happy Holidays
-
- Tim
-
-