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- From: fields@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Matthew Fields)
- Newsgroups: rec.music.compose
- Subject: progress in science and art
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.161638.22846@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
- Date: 28 Dec 92 16:16:38 GMT
- Sender: news@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Mr. News)
- Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
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- I'm not well-versed of an amateur history-of-science buff, but it seems
- to me that the social contract regarding "truth" in the science of the last
- 250 years is much more nearly universal and has a very different kind of
- longetivity than the social contract regarding "beauty" in the Western
- Art Music of the last 800 years.
-
- Scientists have explicitly sought a kind of universality that cuts
- across cultures and expectations. Their working concept of "truth" has,
- in most fields, been reduced to a concept of practical accuracy, sometimes
- coupled with conceptual clarity. This distinction has helped to clarify
- the differences between scientific information and religious belief.
-
- Artistic value, on the other hand, explicitly comes from the listener.
- Here, too, there is no other measurement other than practical response
- of the listener---but after listeners have agreed that the piece
- starts with, say, 3 short notes and a long, it becomes much more
- socially acceptable for the good/bad evaluation of the presentation to
- be entirely up to individual whim.
-
- Under these circumstances, the accumulation of an ever-increasing body of
- ideas that all retain certain amounts of restricted usefulness for describing
- observation seems to me to be a kind of very real "progress" the likes of
- which we just don't have in the arts. The most useful discoveries of the
- composers of organum have not been directly superceded by more useful or
- accurate ways of eliciting the same responses from people---rather, the
- conventions relative to which people experienced those responses have
- atrophied (except in obscure corners of academia). If there were a
- predictable mapping from notes to human response, music would be a much
- more scientific venture than it is today---and would probably be a lot less
- fun, imho.
-
- So I think that looking for "progress" in music by analogy with
- "progress" in science (per Mr. Feldman's posting a while ago) is a
- process that has to be hedged in with constraints, disclaimers, and
- explanatory paragraphs.
-