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- From: maverick@mahogany.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Vance Maverick)
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- Subject: Re: Advances in composition
- Date: 21 Dec 1992 23:50:07 GMT
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- In article <1h3v8vINN516@mozz.unh.edu>, dvf@kepler.unh.edu (David V Feldman) writes:
- |>
- |> I know that arguing by way of analogies will always raise suspicions,
- |> but while there is no "single goal" that all scientists can agree on,
- |> there can be no reasonable objection to the vocabulary of "developments",
- |> "advances", or even "experiments" and "research" in that discipline,
- |> and I believe that these words can be applied to the arts with no
- |> connotation of monism. Basically time goes on, the corpus of music
- |> grows, the matrix of previously existing musical ideas available to
- |> a composer constantly grows richer. Some of these ideas may play themselves
- |> out in a single phrase or maybe a piece, but others will resonate across
- |> many pieces, perhaps across the work of many composers and musicians,
- |> perhaps even across the work of composers and musicians with widely
- |> divergent goals.
-
- How can one tell what ideas are in a piece?
-
- I'd say, by listening; in which case the "ideas" derive
- as much from the listening as from the composition. So
- the "ideas" embodied in the corpus (or canon), and the
- "contribution" of an individual piece, are not fixed, and
- "progress" or "advancement", if they happen, are not
- matters of identifiable qualities.
-
- [Look at reception history. I happen to know more about
- this in literature, but it's true in music too: the
- properties of pieces change over time. Yeats responded
- to qualities in Ben Jonson's verse which weren't there
- during the previous century. Mozart's late G minor
- symphony has changed affect more than once.]
-
- My point? You started this thread by asking for news of
- technical advances -- disavowing interest in good/bad
- beautiful/ugly aesthetic judgments. I don't think these
- things can be separated....
-
- Vance
-