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- From: mingus@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Damballah Wedo)
- Subject: Re: Jazz Composers Guild
- Organization: The Poto Mitan in the Houmfor
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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 06:21:03 GMT
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- > jbulyk@telesciences.com (Jerry E. Bulyk):
- >
- > Reading through the liner notes on some of these XYZ ESP reissues,
- > I came across references to the Jazz Composers Guild and their
- > "October Revolution" of 1964. The only other place I have heard
- > of the JCG was in rlc's Sun Ra discography under FEATURING PHAROAH
- > SANDERS AND BLACK HAROLD [Saturn IHNY 165] recorded 6/15/64.
- >
- > Can someone fill-in who were the players who comprised the Jazz
- > Composers Guild, and what, if any, sessions were ever recorded by
- > this collective? What was their mandate, and did they eventually
- > reform as the Jazz Composers Orchestra Association (JCOA) in 1968?
- > - the first known record by the JCOA being the Cecil co-led date
- > "The Jazz Composer's Orchestra" [JCOA 1001/2 841 124-2].
- > There is too big a gap between the two dates to be explained, unless
- > they went under all to fast.
-
- In THE 101 BEST JAZZ ALBUMS (inflammatory title, but a pretty good book)
- Len Lyons has this to say about the Guild:
-
- "Collectivism in New York, having to surmount a tradition of
- competitiveness and several sharply drawn personalities, evolved
- falteringly in stages. The first occurred in 1964, in the form of a
- concert politically dubbed 'The October Revolution In Jazz', organized
- by trumpeter Bill Dixon with the help of Cecil Taylor and a few others.
- Over a four-day period in the Cellar Cafe near Broadway, 'the new thing'
- was displayed by twenty different groups of musicians, ranging from the
- now famous to the long forgotten. The event confirmed two noteworthy
- facts: there was a large reservoir of talent working with the innovations
- of free jazz; and, what seemed more surprising, this music could get a
- hearing if the musicians took the initiative in producing it.
-
- "The more ambitious Jazz Composer's Guild was formed quickly on the heels
- of the October Revolution concert. Its charter members were Bill Dixon,
- Cecil Taylor, Sun Ra, Paul Bley, the composer Carla Bley, then Paul's
- wife, George Russell, and Archie Shepp. They had hoped, in effect, to
- replace the local chapter of the American Federation of Musicians (AFM),
- which they felt had failed them on several counts. The guild members did
- not recommend total severance from the AFM, but saw themselves as a
- special-interest group which the union was simply ill-prepared to serve.
- The guild, however, had its own problems in the strong, idiosyncratic
- personalities of its founders. Without a father figure like RIchard
- Abrams to unify it, its life was short -- but not in vain.
-
- "The Jazz Composer's Orchestra Association (JCOA) was created in 1966 by
- Carla Bley who with her partner, Austrian trumpeter Mike Mantler, transformed
- the advocacy idea into a quasi-commercial launching pad for new noncommercial
- music. The association's first raison d'etre was to support composers who
- wrote extended works for large jazz orchestras. The JCOA established its own
- record label, which Bley described as 'like the Wildlife Preserve,
- protecting all this possibly extinct music... that doesn't fit into
- (industry) categories.' As a nonprofit organization, the JCOA soon
- received funding from New York state for concerts and workshops, and from
- private sources for recordings. In 1972 the New Music Distribution Service
- (NMDS) was created as the JCOA's distribution arm, proving its product's
- viability by selling within two years over 80,000 LPs on consignment
- from a variety of 'new-thing' labels.
-
- "The JCOA label itself produced three classic albums of large orchestra
- works: Mantler's THE JAZZ COMPOSERS' ORCHESTRA with soloists Cecil Taylor,
- Pharoah Sanders, Gato Barbieri, Don Cherry, and Roswell Rudd; Bley's
- opera-like ESCALATOR OVER THE HILL; and Cherry's RELATIVITY SUITE....."
-
- Lyons goes on to talk about musician-owned labels like Strata-East,
- Unit Core, Tomato, Delmark, India Navigation, etc (you know, all the
- labels all us bluenoters search for in dusty stores in dubious parts
- of town :-))
-
- The book was published in 1980, and two things are amazing about it:
- first, how optministic it is that the do-it-yourself thing would work
- out; and second, how relentless the major labels have been in trying
- to snuff out this brave attempt by musicians to take charge of their
- own destiny...
-
- --
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