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- From: pratta@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Anthony Edward Prattico)
- Subject: Re: Re: Bachmann motor
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- Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:15:45 GMT
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- In article <ardie.168.724957724@UIUC> ardie@UIUC (R.D. McClary) writes:
- >>
- >>
- >
- >Not so! 1. Many of these motors are "universals" that can run on AC or
- >DC. There may be a few odd-balls out there that do mess up, but it is not
- >always obvious. 2. Direction for a DC system depends on polarity. I
- >don't know how electronic reversers for AC work, just how to hook them
- >up. (The old AC motors with field windings reversed direction by reversing
- >the order in which current flowed through the motor - field first, or
- >brushes first.(
-
- 1. WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
- The following motors are NOT series and require DC
- Note that they are the most popular of model motors.
-
- Northwest Shortline (Sagami)
- Athearn
- Kato
- Bachman
- Circuitron (Tortoise switch machine motors)
-
- I checked each of these. They all buzzed and hummed as they oscillated, and the
- Sagami motor fried after less than a minute.
-
- >>Also, the motor detemines the current draw. The motor will not
- >>draw 5 amps unless there is something seriously wrong with it.
- >
- >I know that! The question was, can the motor handle that much current
- >before it gets fried. (Actually, the Baldwin is the one tinplate loco with
- >a motor that couldn't handle enough load. Although the motor windings might
- >survive, the heat often melted the loco body or the brush solder.)
- >
- No, the motor windings and possibly the pickup wires will fry. But I still
- don't understand why you're asking this, since the motor won't draw that much
- current as you agreed with above.
-
- The reason I checked the Tortoise motors is that a couple of ours fried in a
- big way. The traces, which have a resistance close to that of motor windings,
- IGNITED the pc board and then melted completely away. These traces were on the
- contacts that switch track power to the turnout frogs, and the layout power
- supplies only provide 4 amps. The thing is, they didn't short the supplies.
- Our power supplies have electronic circuits that cut power within a few milli-
- seconds of a short without needing a fuse or breaker, so they reset as soon as
- the short is cleared without having to shut them off
-
- >>I think you need to brush up on your electronics a bit before you proceed.
- >>
- >>
- >Agreed, but then, don't we all?
-
- Yes. I've got a final exam in circuit analysis in 45 minutes.
-
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