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- From: jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett)
- Newsgroups: rec.games.board
- Subject: Re: Fire in the East
- Message-ID: <Tgwds*-t1@caleb.UUCP>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 06:47:51 GMT
- References: <1992Dec13.022421.548@alchemy.ithaca.ny.us> <1992Dec14.171618.3164@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
- <1992Dec20.184019.10186@athena.mit.edu> <1h7ae3INNbu3@ua.d.umn.edu>
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- In article <1h7ae3INNbu3@ua.d.umn.edu>, Kurt Schroeder writes:
-
- > Perhaps to stimulate discussion on the Europa series of games, let me ask
- > a question.
- >
- > Fire in the East is of course remarkable for the German onslaught at the
- > beginning of the game. The set-up of the Russian forces and the play at the
- > beginning can be analyzed from many standpoints, but one principle the
- > Russian player needs to follow is to set up stacks of units which can not be
- > over-run by the German player. Failure to do this will allow the German
- > player to break through lines and penetrate the delaying defense of the
- > Russians. My questions are these:
- >
- > 1. How large a stack does the Russian player need in order to guarantee that
- > it will not be over-run. Since the German player
- > needs to attain 10:1 odds to over-run, this question resolves into the
- > question: How large a stack can the German player construct on Game Turn
- > One? 60 points?
- >
- > Divisions: 3 x 12-10 Panzer divisions = 36
- > Non-divisional units: 3 x 5-10 Pz XX breakdowns = 15
- > Artillery: 2 x 5-8 motorized artillery = 10
- > ____
- > Total 61 points
-
- Yes, but you can't put them all together if you use the standard setup. It will
- take a few moves to get them all together. There is also only one of these
- possible at the beginning.
-
- >
- > Can anyone construct a stack which reaches 70 points?
-
- Yes, but it is much later.
-
- >
- > 2. Is this 60- or 70-point stack attainable everywhere along the front, or
- > can the Russian player stack less than 7 points along some portions of the
- > front (i.e., south of Pripet marshes)?
-
- See above.
-
- >
- > This problem could probably be solved by analysis, although I have never
- > tried. It probably smacks too much of game mechanics to suit the critics of
- > Europa heard on this net, but some of you might have done some analysis along
- > these lines. Has anyone investigated this, or does anyone know of published
- > sources of analysis? It is roughly the Europa equivalent of calculating the
- > value of all possible three-move openings in chess.
-
- It is fairly easy for the Soviet to estimate where the "big" stacks can get in
- a single move. He places the larger stacks there and smaller stacks elsewhere.
-
-
- Jim Pritchett
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