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- From: whoward@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (Will Howard)
- Subject: Re: Coast Guard user fee repealed!
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.215940.1250@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu>
- Sender: news@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu
- Organization: Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory
- References: <72433611213187@oxygen.aps1.anl.gov> <1992Dec17.141656.1172@panix.com> <petere-211292125808@129.83.90.13>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:59:40 GMT
- Lines: 46
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- In article <petere-211292125808@129.83.90.13> petere@tesla.mitre.org (Peter D.
- Engels) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec17.141656.1172@panix.com>, spencer@panix.com (David
- >Spencer) wrote:
- >>
- >> gbanks@oxygen.aps1.anl.gov (Gregory Banks) writes:
- >>
- >> >Good news! The ripp-off fee that the government imposed on boaters
- >> >that used water accessed by the coast guard is no more as of 1993!
- >>
- >> I'm probably the only person who's going to disagree with you here.
- >> The user fee is a terrific idea. My momma taught me to pay for what I
- >> use, and not to slop at the government trough.
- >>
- >> Why tax the poor to provide a service to the rich? As for commercial
- >> fisherman, it's a cost of doing business. Only now it's going to be
- >> paid by someone else.
- >>
- >> Grow up and shoulder your responsibilities.
- >
- >The reason that there have been so many complaints about this tax is
- >because the money did not go to the Coast Guard, who provide the service,
- >but into the general funds. So the general tax-paying public Porr AND
- >rich) still have to pay for the service.
- >
-
- It's a matter of calling a general tax a tax, and a user fee a user fee, and
- not put users fees into the general govt funds, or use tax money to pay for
- things that should be paid for by the interested users "as they go." Sounds
- good, but... The catch is it's not so easy to draw a clear line between
- services that benefit the general public, and thus should be paid for by taxes
- (in principle), and services that benefit a smaller set of "users" like
- recreational boaters. If the Coast Guard were able to estimate that it spends a
- certain amount of effort, worth X million dollars, on services that directly
- relate to recreational boating, then it would be reasonable, I think, to divide
- that up in some equitable way among all recreational boaters and impose users
- fee (for example the per-foot charge as one admittedly imperfect scheme) that
- then go directly to the CG. But that's not so simple - services like
- navigational aids (buoys, LORAN, lighthouses, Notice to Mariners, etc.) and
- search&rescue, benefit rec. and commercial interests. Pollution enforcement
- benefits many interests as well: commercial fishermen, beach-goers,
- water-skiers, etc. But it's worth considering that every you go boating you ARE
- using government services - the CG is on call in case you get into mortal
- danger, they're maintaining nav. aids, etc.
-
- Will "But hey, what do I know?" Howard
-