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- From: d40937@boole (Jean Yves Desbiens)
- Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
- Subject: Re: Sick and tired of cries of sexism (was Re: 9 1/2 Weeks)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.141639.5308@vlsi.polymtl.ca>
- Date: 30 Dec 92 14:16:39 GMT
- References: <1992Dec30.115724.20219@odin.diku.dk>
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- Per Goetterup (ballerup@diku.dk) wrote:
- : panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden) writes:
- :
- : >bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
- : >> No offense to gilbert, or even to tara lou, but I'm real tired
- : >> of hearing this crap about sexist ads when in fact the
- : >> objectification of men is just as prevalent as the objectification
- : >> of women.
- : >That isn't the point, not that it isn't a good point to make.
- : >The point being made is that the advertisers expect their viewers to be
- : >men, and they speak to men as consumers, and ignore women as audience.
- :
- : You might be forgetting some types of products clearly targetted at women as
- : absolute primary consumer, like 'super/ultra' efficient washing powder and
- : dishwashing fluids that spares the hands... (for the housewife) or shampoo/
- : perfume commercials featuring unshaved/sweaty men - or the exact opposite -
- : the yuppie (sharp dressed) man in suit and tie in the fancy sports car...
- :
- : There's just as many commercials targetted at women as there are at men.
-
- Most of those targeted commercials are so stereotypical that they make
- me want to puke, the bud adds a particularly offensive, a 25 year
- differential exists between the men an women in them. The detergent
- commercials are targeted towards women when in all of my friends houses the
- *men* do the dishes.
-
- : The point is that in many areas, men and women are very different as consumers,
- : and it's very difficult always to target a commercial at both at the same time,
- : which is why they select one of the sexes, thus almost unavoidably making the
- : commercial borderline sexist, or at least playing on traditional stereotypes.
-
- Not borderline, right on sexist, they have a preconceived stereotypical
- way of selling things and they continue on, they haven't noticed any change
- since the 50's. If they can't find a way to target a particular group without
- being sexist, then maybe their targeting is way off (like the detergent thing).
-
- :
- : We _are_ different and we just have to live with the fact that the advertising
- : companies knows that - and uses it.
-
- They use the fact that it is easier to use old tricks (stereotypes) than
- invent creative non sexist ways ( that may or may not work)
-
- :
- : But wouldn't life be boring if we were all alike...?
-
- There are much more differences between countries in selling than between
- sexes, still no such stereotypical attitudes exist.
-
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