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- From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
- Subject: Re: Sick and tired of cries of sexism (was Re: 9 1/2 Weeks)
- Organization: AT&T
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- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:26:42 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.162642.12787@cbnewse.cb.att.com>
- References: <4479@cvbnetPrime.COM> <1992Dec24.195620.2350@cbnewse.cb.att.com> <BD.92Dec27093825@fluent.UUCP>
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- In article <BD.92Dec27093825@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
- >gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
- >
- >>From article <1992Dec20.145422.10366@Virginia.EDU>, by tlc9y@Virginia.EDU ("tara lou"):
- >>> you do not have to be a lesbian or an abused survivor in order
- >>> to believe that our society dictates men's satisfaction over
- >>> women's..i see beer commercials that satisfy men's needs [i
- >>> drink beer, too], sportscar commercials [i would like one,
- >>> too], and many other instances where men's pleasure is the
- >>> aim..not women's.
- >>
- >>Some beer commercials have scantily-clad attractive women because
- >>heterosexual men react to it and buy the beer. It may be that there are not so
- >>many commercials with scantily-clad attractive men because Madison Avenue
- >>has determined that it does not get them as much business from heterosexual
- >>females. The image for them is probably seduction of the "powerful/macho/
- >>rich" male to "provide" for them. Lowest common denominator? You can
- >>argue that if you want. But the fact is, somebody's buying it, 'cause
- >>it's still around.
- >
- >No offense to gilbert, or even to tara lou, but I'm real tired
- >of hearing this crap about sexist ads when in fact the
- >objectification of men is just as prevalent as the objectification
- >of women.
- >
- >Look again at those beer ads. Sure the women are great looking
- >and are wearing bikinis, but the men are also great looking
- >and are running around without shirts at all, with slim sleek
- >nicely muscled bodies, great smiles, and wonderful hair.
- >
- >Yes, the demands that Madison Ave. places on women are great, but
- >they place those same demands on men, except that in addition
- >to being physically beautiful and well-dressed, men have to make
- >lots of money and be "sensitive" to boot.
-
- No offense taken. And I wasn't trying to imply that there is anything
- evil in the intent of the commercials. I'm merely saying that they
- are there because the public does react positively to them, and
- in actuality, that public is not 100% young white males. Sometimes
- it's all to easy to feel that the rest of the world has to change
- to ensure your happiness. It's not always a good idea to sit back
- and suffer, either, but I think moderation must be observed. Point
- of fact is that everyone has their personal way of getting their
- snicks and their personal sources of aggravation, and they are not
- always going to mesh well with the rest of the world. What I
- find objectionable is the tendency to point the finger at others'
- as somehow "evil" and demand that all others change as a default
- rather than a well-considered approach.
-
- GMS
-
-