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- From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
- Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
- Subject: Re: TOYS
- Date: 21 Dec 1992 14:43:27 GMT
- Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
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- In article <1h4gmrINNe19@transfer.stratus.com>
- lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Laurie Mann) writes:
- > This is one of the most frustrating movies of recent times. For
- the third
- > time, Robin Williams has made an overblown movie of style over
- substance (the
- > other two being Popeye (which I liked) and Hook (which I really
- didn't)).
-
- I liked all three to some degree, and probably liked Toys best
- of the three.
-
- I tend to agree that it was "style over substance," and that the
- first half was better than the second. Still, I thought it was
- fun and marvelously inventive.
-
- It seems, however, that we are getting more and more films which
- are mostly style, with little substance. Hook was a good
- example last year. Almost any film by Tim Burton is another good
- example. David Lynch's Dune is yet another example.
-
- One problem with these types of films, at least for me, is that
- they wear off. I really liked Batman Returns when I first saw
- it; it was fun to watch. But with time, I've reached the point
- where I feel it was OK, but rather flawed. The immediate effective
- of the imagery was positive, but not enough to make it a good movie.
-
-
- > Williams played the quietly manic son of a recently-dead toy
- manufacturer whose
- > inheritence is passed on to his uncle. Joan Cusack played his
- sister and Robin
- > Wright played the woman he gets interested in. I don't remember
- the name of
- > the actors who played the uncle or Cousin Patrick. I think the
- actor who
- > played Patrick was acting in his first movie, and he played his
- role so
- > straight that he provided a perfect foil for Williams and Cusack.
- >
-
- Patrick was brilliant. As you say, he was the perfect foil for
- Williams.
-
- > The first hour of this movie is full of delight and fun surprises.
- The writing
- > is a tad weak, but the acting was pretty good considering. In a
- movie like
- > this, the acting usually dies before the writing does, but that
- didn't happen
- > here. The art direction and camera angles were inventive. The
- movie starts to
- > fall apart in the middle and dies during the last half (though the
- last ten
- > minutes or so return to being quirky).
-
- Where the writing particulary falls apart is in the little things.
-
- (SPOILERS FOLLOW)
-
-
- For example, the writers had to find a way to make Patrick turn
- on his dad. The whole business of discovering that his lover
- had also been his dad's lover is silly. I could just picture the
- writers sitting around saying "Well, we got to make Patrick find
- out something about his dad that will make him help the good guys.
- How can we get someone to tell him something that will turn him.
- Ah, I got it. If we have him be a lover with someone who is
- also his dad's lover, he can find out something secret from her."
-
- ----------------------------------
- Jim Mann
- Stratus Computer jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
-
-