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- From: s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu (michael bruce mcdonald)
- Subject: Re: Education and the Environment by Gregory A. Smith
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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:52:03 GMT
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- In article <C0395J.Eow@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca>, msmorris@watsci.UWaterloo.ca (Mike Morris) writes:
- >
- > Wednesday, the 30th of December, 1992
- >
- >Responding to a review of _Education and the Environment: Learning
- >to Live with Limits_, by Gregory A. Smith, John L. Scott wrote:
- > Ah, good. Yet another reason to homeschool my children.
- >
- >Michael McDonald writes:
- > Do you mean to tell me that with generations of kids having been profoundly
- > socialized to blithely accept all sorts of thinks of dubious value (like
- > most of America's wars), you can genuinely get up in arms at the prospect
- > of kids being socialized to "understand the social costs of environmental
- > degradation"? (Wow! sounds so insidious it must be a Satanic plot or
- > something!)
- >
- > Maybe that jerk Pat Buchanan was right after all, maybe this *is* a war for
- > America's soul, if such socialization can really strike you as "radical."
- >
- >I don't know. I thought approximately the same thing as John: There is
- >no way I'm going let them carry out their experiments in indoctrination
- >on *my* children. It is this rot---together with the fact that there is
- >so very much like it already in the schools that most of what my wife and I
- >consider real education gets ignored of a necessity---that has us committed
- >to homeschooling our children.
- >
- > Mike Morris
- > (msmorris@watsci.uwaterloo.ca)
- >
- >
- >
-
- Contrary to what John McCarthy said in reply to my post, I truly *am* amazed
- at the facile way some folks equate the notion of socialization with
- indocrtination. Socialization is part of any educational process.
- Indoctrination has to do not so much with the educational institution as
- with the methods of each educator, and I would thank McCarthy not to assume
- that I am a proponent of *indoctrination* just because socializing children
- to *see* the common-sensical idea that allowing the environment to be
- degraded hurts us all strike me as a good thing.
-
- Thus far, the arguments proffered here in favor of homeschooling strike me
- as profoundly selfish, as primarily a matter of wanting to ensure that
- children are good little reflections of their parents. Talk about
- indoctrination!
-
- michael mcdonald
-