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- From: lmollett@lunatix.uucp (Laura Mollett)
- Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
- Subject: Re: Cultural Appropriation and the New Age
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.024746.23312@lunatix.uucp>
- Date: 24 Dec 92 02:47:46 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec23.144617.25477@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jahb@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JENNIFER A. HEISE) writes:
- >In article <JMC.92Dec22003234@SAIL.Stanford.EDU>, jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John Mc
- >Carthy) writes:
- >>When some American Indians became Catholic, were they appropriating someone
- >>else's spirituality?
- >
- >No, but when Catholics moved the birth of Jesus to the winter solistice (sp?),
- >and created an "All Saints Day" the day after Samhain (? I can't remember if
- >that is the name of the Oct 31 holiday), were they appropriating the pagans'
- >spirituality? How about when they elevated Mary as a Mother Goddess?
- >P.S. I'm a Catholic (lapsed) myself.
- >
- Hello and Happy Holidays (whichever ones you're celebrating) :),
- It's solstice, btw. and your post seems like a good excuse for me
- to recommend a book on the subject :). (I thought someone else was asking
- earlier too, but I don't remember who or when or what or what subject etc.)
- Anyway, the book is _Christmas Customs & Traditions;
- their History and Significance_
- by Clement A. Miles
- Dover Pub., New York, 1976
- and includes in Part II (Pagan Survivals)
- Pre-Christian Winter Festivals;
- All Hallow Tide to Martinmas (stuff on All Saints &
- All Souls' Days, their Relation to New Year
- Festival etc.)
- St. Clement to St. Thomas
- Christmas Eve and the Twelve Days
- The Yule Log
- The Christmas-Tree, Decorations, & Gifts
- Christmas Feasting & Sacrificial Survivals
- Masking, The Mummers' Play, The Feast of Fools, &
- the Boy Bishop (Interesting stuff :)
- St. Stephen's, St. John's, & Holy Innocents' Days
- New Year's Day
- Epiphany to Candlemas
- This is just the table of contents for the second part of the book.
- Loads of great stuff in every chapter; and almost anything one could ask for
- about where Christmas customs originated etc. etc. Good book.
- Another couple of Christmas books, while I'm at it:
- _The Romance of a Christmas Card_ by Kate Douglas Wiggin
- Boston & New York, Houghton Mifflin Co., 1915
- An old-fashioned romance story with _wonderful_ illustrations by Alice
- Ercle Hunt (beautiful full-color plates with small subtitles, tho not
- enough of them :)
- and,
- _The Reader's Digest Merry Christmas Songbook_
- Reader's Digest, 1981
- Probably the only Reader's Digest thing I would ever recommend <grin>, but this
- book has almost every Christmas Song I can imagine in it (and lots I couldn't
- imagine) along with a little note of "Story Behind the Song" for all of them.
- The only thing missing is "Winter Wonderland" <sigh>. I'm having a terrible
- time finding the words to that song. Anyway this one has everything from the
- traditionals ("The Holly & the Ivy :) to "Nuttin for Christmas" (I'm gettin'
- Nuttin' for Christmas, cuz I ain't been nuttin but bad") including all the
- words to "Frosty" and to "The Little Drummer Boy" or anything else the kids are
- asking for.
- Well, again, Happy Holidays,
- Laura Mollett
- >PPS- John, it's he who refuses to do LOGIC who is doomed to talk nonsense.
- >Case in point.
- >--
- >Jennifer Heise Net: jahb@lehigh.edu
- >Reference Dept., Phone: (215) 758-3072
- >Fairchild-Martindale Libraries #8A, Lehigh University, Bethlehem, PA 18015
- >My opinions are my own. No one else would HAVE them anyway.
- >
- >"The toad beneath the harrow knows
- >Exactly where each tooth-point goes;
-