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- From: maxson@cerl.uiuc.edu (K R Maxson)
- Subject: Ano Hi ni Kaeritai (Was: Ayukawa or Madoka?)
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- Organization: UIUC Computer-based Education Research Lab
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:49:35 GMT
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- Spoilers thoughout.
-
- I first posted about this almost a year ago, and there was some pretty
- vehement disagreement from the net. However, Darold now says:
-
- dhiga@aludra.usc.edu (Darold Higa) writes:
- > I agree that the ending of KOR leaves a certain ambiguity about the future
- > of this relationship.
-
- While this is true, I feel that the movie has such strong undertones of
- unretrievable loss that things are bound to turn out badly for Kyosuke and
- Madoka.
-
- > If it didn't (and don't most people go through at least a
- > couple of heartbreaks with "THE RIGHT PERSON" before actually finding the
- > right person?), then KOR did a wonderful job of taking us back to "that day".
-
- Although I might be misinterpreting him, it seems that Darold is saying that
- Ano Hi ni Kaeritai is taking us back to the day of first love's fruition, and
- I don't believe this is true. The title could more aptly be translated "I wish
- ( to / I could ) return to those days" and is rather a lament for the lost
- years documented in the television series than it is a glorification of the
- movie's own story.
-
- The dissolution of the romantic triangle shows new aspects of all three of
- the characters involved.
-
- We see a harder, more callous aspect of Kyosuke; before the film, it was
- unthinkable that he would treat ANYBODY the way he treated Hikaru. In his
- concern for everybody's feelings he had never been able to take action (even
- when his inaction might result in someone's pain); in the film he finally
- acknowledges that Madoka's feelings are more important to him than anyone
- else's. But I think that by the end of the film it is apparent that neither
- Kyosuke nor Madoka feel unalloyed joy over this change in him.
-
- Madoka particularly suffers a brutal deromanticizing at the hands of the
- movie. She makes Kyosuke her hit man to bump off Hikaru, her best friend
- since childhood, and she obviously feels guilty and ashamed about it.
- Certainly, Madoka belonged in the conversation with Hikaru where Kyosuke
- confessed he loved Madoka. Her "victory" over Hikaru, if such it is,
- brings her only mixed pleasure, and she doesn't feel moved to consummate
- her new relationship with Kyosuke with so much as a kiss.
-
- I think that the actions of all involved serve to poison Kyosuke and Madoka's
- relationship, and that there is bound to be a slow drifting apart between
- them as they enter college. I actually think Hikaru emerges with the least
- emotional travail (and, in my opinion, that is as it should be in an ideal
- world, since she was the most innocent of all the poor decisions and
- machinations that went into the doomed love triangle).
-
- Now, don't get me wroing; although I'm using words that can't help but be
- freighted with emotional and moral judgements, I feel for all three of the
- principles. Even the best of people make horrible mistakes, and I think the
- way Kyosuke and Madoka trash their relationship is particularly poignant.
- But what could we expect? Some things just don't have happy resolutions;
- you just hope that, happy or not, you'll be able to look at yourself in the
- mirror without throwing up when all the dust has settled. I don't think
- Kyosule and Madoka quite escape that kind of self-recrimination, and that
- is why I find the movie particularly touching in a way the (admittedly
- amusing) television series wasn't.
-