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- From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)
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- Subject: Re: talk.politics.usa.conservative (Was: Re: RFD: talk.politics.patriot)
- Date: 31 Dec 1992 23:52:18 GMT
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- References: <id.US1W.YS3@ferranti.com> <BzqrD5.8JC@polaris.async.vt.edu> <1992Dec31.033011.3349@afit.af.mil> <1992Dec31.135845.2219@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
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- In article <1992Dec31.135845.2219@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
- |> In article <1992Dec31.033011.3349@afit.af.mil> wbralick@afit.af.mil (Will Bralick) writes:
- |> >In article <BzqrD5.8JC@polaris.async.vt.edu> jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (J. Furr) writes:
- |> >| Which is why I recommend putting the word "usa" in the name. That way,
- |> >| any Australians who have an idea that conservative means "green" or
- |> >| "nature" politics will look at it and say "'talk.politics.usa.con-
- |> >| servative'. Well, that's a group that's about American politics. Let's go
- |> >| back to aus.conserve and hang out."
- |> >
- |> >But conservatism isn't just an American phenomenon (Edmund Burke is
- |> >credited (by Russell Kirk) as being the first modern conservative
- |> >and he was Scottish). Most American conservatives would agree that
- |> >Mrs. Thatcher is a conservative. Isn't the political party she headed
- |> >called the Conservative Party? Did the Aussies think that Mrs. Thatcher
- |> >was a Green? I personally prefer that the scope of the discussion not
- |> >be (implicitly) limited to the US.
- |>
- |> I'm sorry, but according to Peter da Silva, the word "Conservative" is
- |> used almost everywhere to mean ecological-conservation etcetera, not a
- |> political viewpoint. Unfortunately, this means that you can't possibly be
- |> right in stating that "conservative" has a political meaning in England
- |> and Scotland.
-
- With all due respect, this is incorrect. "Conservative" is used
- in the UK in the political sense. It *might* be used in the
- ecological sense, but I think "conservationist" is more common.
-
- jon.
-