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- Path: sparky!uunet!mitech!gjc
- From: gjc@mitech.com (George J. Carrette)
- Newsgroups: ne.politics
- Subject: Re: State Socialism (last one, for sure)
- Message-ID: <4280@mitech.com>
- Date: 31 Dec 92 10:32:39 GMT
- References: <20472@ksr.com> <58077@dime.cs.umass.edu> <4269@mitech.com> <58131@dime.cs.umass.edu>
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- In article <58131@dime.cs.umass.edu>, yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken) writes:
- >>What was it about the Communist systems that made it possible,
- >>convenient, or otherwise available to kill millions of people in order
- >>to effect these "massive changes?"
- >
- > And what was it about the capitalist system that made it possible to
- > enforce the enclosure laws, use human beings as property, ...
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- But the communists in the USSR were killing their own people!
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- Why can't you *address* the difference between -importation- of people
- into a country (southern USA, slavery) and the massive destruction
- of human capitol inside a country?
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- [Slavery killed millions during capture and shipment. But once arrived
- in the US those slaves had economical value and were not in general
- destroyed in the wholesale manner that Stalin destroyed people.]
-
- [Comments about my supposed ignorance of US history, totally ignored.
- For example, do you have a book that shows the -auction- value of slaves
- in various places in the US over a period of about 200 years?
- I think not. But if you did you would see that slaves were never cheap,
- and never had the negative value (worth more dead than alive) that
- the "majorityites" (translate that into Russian please) in the USSR
- obviously placed on millions of lives].
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- In other words, pretend that I don't care at all about the humanistic
- value of life.
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- Just explain why industrial development in capitalist systems
- tended to import labor and/or increase population while
- the great development programs under communist systems seemed
- to need to destroy their own people?
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