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- From: cole@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Sandra Stewart-Cole)
- Subject: Re: Mac OS on PC
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- Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:31:31 GMT
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- In <1992Dec22.183638.27492@panix.com> rmah@panix.com (Robert Mah) writes:
-
-
- >Big deal. Until FileMaker Pro, no Claris apps could run on any system
- >other than the Mac. Remember the market that we're talking about is the
- >operating systems market, which is a subset of the retail PC software
- >market, which is a subset of the software market. That Microsoft can
- >monopolize the MS-Windows market is a given. It has to be proven that
- >Microsoft is trying to prevent other companies from producing operating
- >systems and applications software. Even if they were preventing firms
- >from producing apps for MS-Windows, there wouldn't be a problem. Except
- >that MS-Windows will soon be the dominant OS. If MS-Windows doesn't
- >dominate the OS market then the FTC has no case.
-
- >I don't like Microsoft much, and they'v done some pretty slimy things in
- >the past, but I really wonder if anti-trust laws should be brought to
- >bear against them.
-
- Rob,
- The difference is that Claris programs did NOT do anything that checked
- to make sure they were'nt running on an Amiga with Amax, or a Spectre'd Atari,
- or any of the other Mac emulating systems. The grumbling rumors I've heard
- indicate that MS apps apparently do specific undocumented checking that makes
- them die under OS/2... and IBM theoretically holds a rather extensive license
- to emulate Windows. (what, get specific here? not on your life. grumbling
- rumoprs get prefaced often by the statement " I didn't say this" )
-
- If my understanding of the unfair trade practices laws is correct (and
- I'm no lawyer, so it may well be off) there is a critical factor here: MS does
- NOT tell people who buy Windows or the Windows SDK that they have reserved to
- themselves certain features of the interface and operating system that give
- their applications a leg up on competitors. Presumeably if they HAD told users
- and developers that MS apps would be developed by a team with better
- information not provided to outside developers, sales of both the OS and the
- development tools would be appreciably less. MS may have to prove that it was
- all just a silly accident, and they forgot to mention certain features, or that
- internally there was unauthorized flow of info that they now have controlled.
- On it's face, assuming that the FTC and developers can convince a judge and
- jury that the undocumented features used by MS apps developers really give the
- apps a competitive edge, it sure seems like a decptive practice inhibiting
- competition.
-
- I would be unsurprised to see MS do as Apple did. Spin off a wholly-owned
- subsidiary with totally seperate management and staff to do applications. Maybe
- even keep the MS name on it. Sacrifice the legal synergies of a single
- operation with a theoretical wall in order to prevent a court from ordaining a
- total seperation.
-