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- From: alain@linguist.jussieu.fr
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
- Subject: Re: QM vs Eudora/POP (was Re: QM vs MS Mail)
- Message-ID: <alain-301292105754@besouro.linguist.jussieu.fr>
- Date: 30 Dec 92 15:44:25 GMT
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- In article <C01IK5.64A@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim
- McKay) wrote:
-
- [discussion on relative merits of QuickMail and Eudora/POP 3]
-
- > >Last time i used it, you had to run
- > >the administrator program on the mail server itself if you have a gateway
- > >installed, and the software was incompatible with Timbuktu.
- >
- > That was all fixed well over a year ago and tweaked in rel 2.5.1.
-
- It wasn't fixed in the release (2.5a) that I installed less than a year
- ago, and last I heard it still wasn't. Specifically, you cannot administer
- a mail
- server remotely; you also cannot use it as an AppleShare server. Is this
- fixed
- now ?
-
- > ****************************************************************************
- > The following highlight some of the differences between QuickMail and Eudora
- >
- > by Jim McKay with contributions from U OF I mail users and adminstrators.
-
- [lots of interesting stuff deleted]
-
- Something to add to the list: the way QM and Eudora support several
- users on a single machine. This is important for sites
- that cannot afford a Mac or PC for each user.
-
- Eudora handles the situation very well: each user has his own Eudora
- folder,
- and starts up Eudora from there, using his own mailboxes, preference
- settings, etc.. Security conscious users can keep their folder on a
- diskette.
-
- QM doesn't handle multiple users so well. For one thing users often forget
- to log out ("disconnect") when they quit, so when other users try to
- connect
- they find someone already logged in. For another, the mail folder
- hierarchies of different users are not distinct, so each user sees
- folders created by other users (even if he cannot read their contents).
- I think (I'm not sure) address books are also specific to the client
- machine and therefore common, as are QM preference settings.
-
- Another important difference is the way a single account can be accessed
- from several machines. If you use Eudora, you can access the underlying
- Unix mail account using TELNET or Eudora from any Mac on the Internet,
- even you're running Eudora on another Mac at the same time. To avoid
- having incomplete mailboxes all over the place, one simply configures
- Eudora on all Macs but a "main" one to put mail back on the Unix server
- after reading it. All mail eventually winds up in the main machine's
- mailbox when Eudora polls the unix server from that machine. Unfortunately
-
- you cannot access mailboxes on one Mac from another Mac.
-
- QM stores mail on the server (except archived mail, which lives on the
- client)
- so one can in principle access it from any Mac (or PC) connected to the
- same
- Appletalk network as the server. Access via the Internet is impossible,
- whether
- with a QM client or with TELNET. You cannot connect to your QM account if
- you're
- connected elsewhere (QM ludicrously suggests "choose another name"!). You
- must go and disconnect first. This happens often enough to be very
- annoying.
-
- I much prefer Eudora on both accounts.
-
- > * A basic QuickMail server with an SMTP gateway can easily be generated
- > in less than a half hour.
-
- Maybe that's true IF you get LOTs of things right the first time. It took
- me a week to get IE's SMTP\QM gateway working, with daily e-mail support
- from the developper, tho I guess I'm atypically slow and snag-prone :-(
- Perhaps other gateway software is easier to install?
-
- Installing popper (the POP3 server) took but a few minutes. Configuring
- sendmail is another story...
-
- > * QuickMail has a conferencing feature. Once can use the Unix '"talk"
- > command, although Eudora has no such feature itself.
-
- The QM conference window (as many other dialogs in QM) is modal, so your
- Mac is frozen during the conference. No flipping to other applications,
- no cut and paste. That makes it useless.
-
- Btw, there's a standalone talk program for the Mac (Talk 1.0.6).
-
-
- Alain de Cheveigne,
- alain@linguist.jussieu.fr
-