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- From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
- Subject: Re: CBM mention on 12/11/92 Computer Chronicles
- Date: 30 Dec 1992 03:41:25 GMT
- Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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- In article <1992Dec29.153931.3485@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
- >Yep, just like the Porsche and the Benz -- they play the part of automobile,
- >yet you can't compare them.
-
- Sure you can. Don't be ridiculous, they're both cars. I tend to
- think of it differently, though. They're really not so far apart in
- features, they're just greatly distanced in implementation.
-
- >Just take a look at the two.
-
- Okay. Mind if I split your sentences up and take each point one by
- one?
-
- > Windows was designed to work with mainstream
- >(very large) applications, so it has virtual memory, unlike AmigaOS.
-
- Firstly, let me tear this apart. Firstly, one could say that AmigaOS
- was designed for optimal real-time response. Virtual Memory as a
- concept opposes that, philosophically and realistically. Therefore,
- only real memory is supported. And very large mainstream applications
- exist for the Amiga, also. They're just not word processors or
- databases. Rendering programs such as Caligari Professional, and the
- entirety of the Video Toaster package are good examples. So making
- that claim isn't exactly correct.
-
- >Windows was also designed to work on hundreds of different machines with
- >vastly different hardware, so it has complete device independence, unlike
- >AmigaOS. On the other hand, AmigaOS was designed to work with video and
-
- Then let me take this. Windows was not designed to work on hundreds
- of different machines--it's designed to work on the average PC clone.
- Period. It just happens that all of those different machines are
- extremely compatible. Making that claim is like saying that Ultima
- Underworld was written to be played on hundreds of different machines.
-
- Vastly different hardware? Not really. Windows just supports
- graphics drivers, that's all. (if that's what you mean by hardware)
- The fact exists that if you WANT to support anything in the PC world
- these days, it MUST support vastly different hardware, due to everyone
- and their grandmother coming out with their own version of SVGA.
-
- >other realtime applications, so it has very efficient multitasking and a
- >tiny context switch time, unlike Windows. Don't you see that it doesn't
- >make sense to compare them?
-
- And yet they are both multiprocessing operating environments, both
- designed with GUI's, both with filesystems. It just so happens that
- one is architected so much better than the other that it shows what a
- HACK the other is.
-
- And you can't get around that.
-
- Windows is a hack. It doesn't replace EVERYTHING.
-
- >Nope, it's an OS. It does not "sit on top of DOS"; it replaces everything
- >that DOS provides in terms of device management, memory management, etc. It
-
- Alright. If it replaces everything, THEN WHY DO YOU NEED MS-DOS?
- Simple: it doesn't. It doesn't wipe MS-DOS from memory after it's
- loaded, does it? It still USES MS-DOS.
-
- And as such, it inherited it.
-
- >provides every conceivable OS service, yet you refuse to call it an OS. For
-
- Please, it doesn't come close to providing every conceivable OS
- service. NO modern operating system does. Isn't that the point of
- getting the next version? ;)
-
- >some reason, you prefer to call it "a program that plays the part of system-
- >wide moderator and allows user-written subprograms, blah, blah, blah". Can't
- >you see how ridiculous this is, and how stubborn you are being?
-
- I'm being stubborn in what I call a modern OS. Of course I can see
- that. But I don't believe that my stubbornness is making me wrong, in
- this case.
-
- Greg
-
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