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- From: jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel)
- Subject: Re: Future Amiga chipsets
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- Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 20:04:41 GMT
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- Gregory R Block (bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu) wrote:
- :
- : No, it's not, it actually has a large basis in reality. Let's take
- : the explanation a little further. A bus, in theory, should be fast
- : enough to allow the CPU to transfer at speeds approaching or equal to
- : the rough approximation of the maximum speed at which the CPU can
- : transfer data. Anything less, and the bus becomes a bottleneck which
- : must be dealt with. When that bottleneck becomes large, such as a
- : 33mhz i486 sitting on an ISA architecture, that becomes a crippling
- : bottleneck. For ISA transfers, or anything of a similar reign whose
- : bus speeds are minute in size compared to the throughput that is
- : needed, the bottleneck cripples the system.
- :
-
- Yes, but this is only true for peripherals which are capable of transferring
- data as quickly as the 486. It is *not* true for everyday devices, such as
- disk drives, printers, and serial ports. On the other hand, I can see how
- local bus technology benefits non-coprocessed video.
-
- :
- : >I ask you again. What can't my ISA PC do directly because of ISA bus
- : >limitations? Look, I'll even help you by mentioning one thing: DMA to
- : >memory above 16MB can't happen due to the ISA's 24 address lines, but then
- : >again, it's invisible at the end-user level. Is there anything else?
- :
- : Bottlenecks seem to be invisible to the user, too. You don't notice
- : them unless you're on a system which makes it obvious...
- :
-
- Look, I work in the molecular modeling industry, where the software easily
- makes the latest superworkstations sweat. I work with powerful systems like
- the HP and DEC Alpha every day. I also work with lower-end Sparcs and SGI's.
- I don't notice much difference between a Sparc II and my x86 PC running SVR4,
- other than that the PC *feels* a bit faster, but that's probably because it's
- not tied to a network like the Sparc. Nevertheless, you're implying that
- after using something like a Sparc or an SGI, the PC's bottlenecks would jump
- right out at me, and I'm telling you, it's not like that at all.
-
- :
- : Greg
- :
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