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- From: ray@Celestial.COM (Ray Jones)
- Subject: Re: If things had been different... (was: FCC etc)
- Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA
- Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 19:35:30 GMT
- Message-ID: <1993Jan03.193530.23780@Celestial.COM>
- References: <1992Dec22.201103.28693@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> <1992Dec22.234828.0203999@locus.com> <28DEC199212022792@moose.cccs.umn.edu> <1hnqn1INN5le@tamsun.tamu.edu> <28DEC199217112399@moose.cccs.umn.edu> <1992Dec30.040459.20494@grebyn.com>
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- In <1992Dec30.040459.20494@grebyn.com> richk@grebyn.com (Richard Krehbiel) writes:
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- >In article <28DEC199217112399@moose.cccs.umn.edu> rwh@moose.cccs.umn.edu (RICHARD HOFFBECK) writes:
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- >> In article <1hnqn1INN5le@tamsun.tamu.edu>, bdubbs@cs.tamu.edu (Bruce Dubbs) writes:
- >> > In fact, if IBM would have gone with Motorola, I don't think MS would
- >> > exist today.
- >> >
-
- >I think this is probably an overstatement. Microsoft would not have
- >been the OS supplier; instead of MS-DOS everywhere, it might have been
- >CP/M for the 68K instead. Microsoft would still have been the BASIC
- >supplier, and with a 68K to run on, MS-Xenix might have caught on.
-
- >Certainly had it not been for the PC, I think Intel would be gone.
- >Look what's happened to Zilog, the makers of the Z-80. Where are they
- >today? They're not a player of significance in the PC market at
- >least. They still make Z-80's. They're current claim to fame is that
- >they make the smart dual serial port chip in the Macintosh.
-
- >Intel had to work as hard as they did to make the x86 perform because
- >*everything* out-performed it, up until the 386. The Motorola 68K,
- >Zilog Z8000, and NS 32016 (the 16 bit CPUs I can think of) were faster
- >than the 8086 by a wide margin. (Perhaps if the 68K had won the PC
- >design, it wouldn't be as fast as it is.) Intel's 286 didn't quite
- >catch up to the original 68K, and by that time Motorola had the 32-bit
- >68020. The 386, funded by brisk sales of 8088 and 286, finally
- >managed to outrun the 68030 (which, BTW, finally caught up to the x86
- >in bundled functionality, with it's on-board MMU).
-
- IBM is first and formost a marketing company! They did not want the PC to
- compete with thier other and more expensive products. They chose the x86
- chip because it was the least capable chip on the market at the time.
-
- Another example of this was the PC-AT keyboard. A new keyboard with a
- numeric key pad. Great, everbody copied it exactly. It took almost 2 years
- before anyone got smart enough to put a "Return" key on the numeric pad.
- Without that "Return" key, the machines did not compete with IBM' data entry
- equipment. IBM has always been vary carful not to compete with itself.
- >The 68030 grew more gracefully than the x86 did, though. I mean, the
- >386 contains *two* MMUs and *three* incompatible instruction sets...
- >--
- >Richard Krehbiel richk@grebyn.com
- >OS/2 2.0 will do for me until AmigaDOS for the 386 comes along...
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