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- From: sichermn@csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman)
- Subject: Re: FCC will proclaim Microsoft is run by Communists! :)
- Message-ID: <C035E5.BMu@csulb.edu>
- Organization: Cal State Long Beach
- References: <1992Dec24.160351.2557@tc.cornell.edu> <Bzu31K.522@csulb.edu> <28DEC199210514690@moose.cccs.umn.edu>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:44:28 GMT
- Lines: 71
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- In article <28DEC199210514690@moose.cccs.umn.edu> rwh@moose.cccs.umn.edu writes:
- >In article <Bzu31K.522@csulb.edu>, sichermn@csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman) writes:
- >> In article <1992Dec24.160351.2557@tc.cornell.edu> bai@msiadmin.cit.cornell.edu (Dov Bai-MSI Visitor) writes:
- >> >From a previous post by Jeff Sicherman:
- >> >
- >> >> Oh, I think there will still be plenty of opportunities for Billy boy if
- >> >>he works at it. However, it may put a crimp in his megalomania. And I fail
- >> >>to see why we have to tailor the marketplace for the most extreme desires
- >> >>of entreprenuers if that results in being to corruption of the market and
- >> >>the detriment of consumers.
- >> >
- >> >You asked what may happen as a result of FTC actions and I gave
- >> >you my answer. Read some books about successful entrepeneurs if you
- >> >don't believe me.
- >>
- >> Charles Keating was a very successful entrepeneur until they caught up with
- >> his business practices.
- >
- >Nonsense! Keating got caught because he went broke, NOT because what he
- >was doing was illegal. In fact most of the charges against him were for
- >actions he took to hide the fact that he had driven Lincoln into the ground.
-
- He may have gotten caught (up with) because his scams finally failed to
- cover up what he was doing but even that theory is questionable. The
- regulators were looking skeptically at him well before but were waived off
- by interfering politicians. In any case, he was engaged in fraudulent (and
- therefore illegal) transactions that belied his *image* as a successful
- entrepeneur.
-
- >> And again I ask, just where has MS been an innovator ?
- >
- >You want to measure MS against an engineering scale rather than a business
- >scale. In the overall history of business you'll be hard pressed to find
- >another example of a company that was able to grow as quickly as MS and
- >still remain solvent. In the last decade, they've gone from being nothing
- >to being in the Fortune 50 and they've shown almost no public symptoms of
- >growing pains. In the religion of business that is a task that is nothing
- >short of being a miracle. How many of the old CP/M crowd was able to handle
- >even a small piece of success? Osborne? DR? Software Arts? The only company
- >that I can think of that comes close is Compaq, and they seem to be suffering
- >the consequences of a certain amount of detachment from the end-user.
- >
- >A recent New York Times article profiled the MS employees with the astonishing
- >statistic that everyone who has worked at MS for more than 3 years is worth
- >more than $1,000,000 based on their stock options. If I was worth more than
- >1M, I sure wouldn't be working, so they must like it at MS.
- >
- >Two weeks ago the NYT reviewed the user laboratory implimented by MS to study
- >how people actually use their software. The article pointed out that among
- >Lotus, Borland, WP Corp, etc., MS was the only organization to have a
- >noticable in-house product evaluation group. Quite correctly, I think, they
- >compared it to the broadbased human engineering effort pioneered at Bell
- >Labs. Studying how people use your software may not seem particularly
- >innovative, but it seems to have escaped the most of the competition.
- >
- >How long before we start hearing cries that Word or Excel is too easy to
- >use and should be crippled so that Borland or Lotus can compete?
-
- All this is very interesting and there's no question that MS is a very
- successful and well-run company. Off course that's easier to do when one
- is in a booming market and on holds a virtual monopoly on an essential
- component of the market, but I agree that it's well run even independent
- of that. Of course it took years and years to get a decent Windows out ...
-
- However, the question was in response to referring to MS as an
- 'innovator' and I asked where and when did it fulfill this charaacterization.
- You have done nothing to answer that.
-
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- Jeff Sicherman
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