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- From: philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara)
- Subject: Re: ftc and ms
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.212404.11516@microsoft.com>
- Date: 29 Dec 92 21:24:04 GMT
- Organization: Microsoft Corporation
- References: <Bzn3M2.IvJ@csfb1.fir.fbc.com> <1992Dec22.045145.15784@tc.cornell.edu> <OLAVT.92Dec22114846@ulrik.uio.no>
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- In article <OLAVT.92Dec22114846@ulrik.uio.no> olavt@ulrik.uio.no (Olav Torvund) writes:
- >I think the point have been missed somewhere in this thread.
- >
- >If MS offer PC-makers DOS and Windows at a reasonable price for
- >bundling, that is fair enough. But if that deal restrict the PC-makers
- >choice of other OSs, then it is not fair. If the PC-makers have to pay
- >royalty to MS for DOS and Win for every PC sold, no matter if it ships
- >with DOS/Win or not, that is unfair. And it is even worse if the deal
- >says that DOS/Win shall be included on every PC, even if the customer
- >do not want it.
-
- Even with the "royalty per machine" contract that Microsoft
- offers to OEMs, there is nothing that _requires_ the OEMs to
- ship DOS/Windows with each machine - they'll still have to pay
- a royalty on the machines that don't carry it, though.
- And, as I've said before, there are other contracts available
- that don't require royalties on every machine shipped.
-
-
- >The OS-vendors should be free to make a bundling offer to all
- >PC-makers, but not include clauses that excludes the PC-makers to make
- >bundling deals with other OS-vendors.
-
- To the best of my knowledge, there isn't a clause in the
- Microsoft licensing contracts that restricts OEMs from putting
- other OSes on their machines.
-
-
- >If a clone maker says that their production line is set up in a way
- >that makes it more expensive to deliver a system with a blank disk
- >than with the default OS, it is fair enough.
-
- It's much less expensive to maintain a single production line
- than two or more. And, since most people want DOS+Windows, if
- a single production line is to be used it makes sense for it
- to be the one that will produce the largest number of happy
- customers.
-
-
- > But if the reason is that
- >MS does not allow them to deliver that way, or charge royalty even if
- >the default OS is not delivered, then it is unfair competition.
-
- Why? Novell could cut a similar deal for DR-DOS.
-
- -Phil
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- Note: Microsoft doesn't even _know_ that these are my opinions. So there.
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