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- From: rwh@moose.cccs.umn.edu (RICHARD HOFFBECK)
- Subject: Re: FCC will proclaim Microsoft is run by Communists! :)
- Message-ID: <21DEC199210203176@moose.cccs.umn.edu>
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- References: <BzHGFA.Boo@utdallas.edu> <1992Dec20.052923.23904@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> <8194@lib.tmc.edu>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:20:00 GMT
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- In article <8194@lib.tmc.edu>, jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
- > In article <1992Dec20.052923.23904@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> helz@ecn.purdue.edu (Randall A Helzerman) writes:
- > >Yep, that's the good ol' American way of doing business alright. If you can't
- > >compete with someone, just get the Federal Goverment to break up their
- > >company. The real "predatory practices" going on here are those vultures
- > >of rival companies who are waiting to pick the bones of what's left of
- > >Microsoft after the FTC's guts the carcass.
- >
- > I had to go back to the top of this article just to see if it was being posted
- > from microsoft.com. This is some of the brown-nosiest writing I've seen in
- > some time. The simple fact is that MS isn't playing fair - they force
- > manufacturers to sell machines with Windows and DOS preloaded (don't believe
- > that? just try to buy one without!),
-
- Really, try and buy a car without tires. I always considered it a convienence
- that I didn't have to go over to Goodyear of Firestone after I bought a car :-)
- Seriously, the charge wasn't that they forced anyone to do anything but that
- they were selling DOS at a loss to keep DR-DOS or DesqView from cutting the
- same sort of deal with the OEMs. There was nothing in the agreement that
- said manufacturer X couldn't include product Y on their machine, just that
- they would include DOS on all of their machines. BTW, the PC-Taylor chain
- (or at least their stores in the Twin Cities) preload their systems with
- DR-DOS and Windows.
-
- > they use undocumented OS calls in their apps,
-
- Well I use Word and Excel for design issues, not because they are faster
- than the competition. And has been pointed out before, if this is such
- a big advantage, why aren't Excel/Word the market leaders for their
- product catagories.
-
- > and they remove features from their development tools just to hinder a
- > competing OS.
-
- Exactly what tools are you talking about. This is apples and oranges.
- If Borland develops tools for internal use that is being used by their
- applications development people does that mean that they must include
- (and support) those tools in their compiler packages. I don't think so!
-
- I remember an announcment several months ago that IBM was going to release
- a bunch of applications that had been developed internally by their employees
- for internal use. Were they being anti-competitive, or perhaps didn't they
- think that the tools were sufficiently developed to merit the marketing
- and support costs?
-
- --rick
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