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- From: furballs@sequent.com (Paul Penrod)
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- Subject: Re: FCC will proclaim Microsoft is run by Communists! :)
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- Date: 21 Dec 92 07:48:03 GMT
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- In article <BzLMIH.II3@csulb.edu> sichermn@csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec20.215347.1614@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> helz@ecn.purdue.edu (Randall A Helzerman) writes:
- >>In article <BzKsJ2.Bwp@csulb.edu>, sichermn@csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman) writes:
- >>|> Now, now, try and calm down a little bit. I doubt that anything that
- >>|> the FTC is contemplating will 'destroy' Microsoft.
- >>
- >>One of the options that the FTC is considering is breaking Microsoft up into
- >>several companies. That's "destruction" in my book.
- >
- > Hardly. The current shareholder, Billy included, will most likely get
- >shares in each subsidiary and there may be a holding company. What it will
- >accomplish is that the developers and management in each company will not
- >find it so natural and convenient to share information and coordination
- >that ought - in the context of anti-trust law - to be more generally
- >available and less concentrated in the hands of a single entity.
- >
- >>
- >>|> AT best, it will
- >>|> just require them to try an play an little fair(er) with the other children.
- >>
- >>I _still_ don't understand what isn't "fair" about what Microsoft is doing.
- >>Why shouldn't Microsoft let its application programmers talk to its OS
- >>programmers? What is wrong with giving their own programmers an edge?
- >
- > Because it gives them undue power over the software market as a whole
- >and acts detrimentally to the market for applications software in that
- >Microsoft leverages its unique and restricted access to information about
- >it's operating environments to gain an advantage in a separate market. Now
- >you may not see these as separate markets but that is for the FTC to decide.
- >
- >>
- >>|> >How Bill Gates runs his business is nobody's business but Bill Gates's.
- >>|>
- >>|> Sorry to disappoint you, but this issue was settle quite a long time
- >>|> ago when the robber barons ran roughshod over the economy and used
- >>|> market power in anti-ethical, non-competitive ways.
- >>
- >>I was wondering when someone was going to trot out a "robber baron" strawman.
- >>Stick to the issue at hand.
- >
- >
- > It's not a straw man; and no one is claiming that BG is the modern,
- >techno-weenie version of them. The point was that most of anti-trust
- >theory and law was developed during the time of the so-called 'robber
- >barons' as a consequence of the effect that their business and
- >financial practices had upon the markets and the nation as a whole.
- >As a consequence, it was decided that certain practices and structures
- >were inherently unfair and detrimental to the nations economic health
- >and well-being and a result of anti-competitiveness. Now you may not
- >understand it or agree with it but most of it is a settled issue. The
- >application to individual cases, however, is a matter for the Federal
- >regulatory agencies and the courts, where this one will also likely
- >be fought out. Or have they started settling these matters on usenet
- >now ?
- >
- >
- >
-
- First opinion I've read that hits the nail on the head.
-
- The FTC is not some big mean monster that many are making it seem.
- The only difference in this case is that a few highly visible
- figures in the computing community are using this opportunity to
- preach the religion of their products and cry foul in the media.
- Media attention notwithstanding, the FTC is looking into the
- marketing agreements the Microsoft has with hardware vendors and
- how that affects competition. The one unusual circumstance here is
- that the FTC has filed to take action against Microsoft, based upon
- those agreements, rather than give them the opportunity to
- dismantle the offending problem quietly on their own. As I
- understand it, this is the third time in it's history that this has
- occurred.
-
- IF this provides a setback to Microsoft, it will be a temporary
- one. Bill Gates to his credit pours something like 27+% of the
- revenues back into the company for R&D and Product Development. No
- matter what the FTC does to Microsoft, that kind of cash infusion
- will bring about good products, because they can afford to hire top
- talent and spend the time and effort to get it right.
-
- Also, if they do split up Microsoft, the share holders will be
- adequately compensated for the changes to take place. Bill Gates
- wins, not matter what happens. Besides, the man likes a challenge.
-
- This also give IBM and opportunity to press their advantage with
- OS/2 in the market place. If these agreements are dismantled, and
- the vendors have more latitude as to what OS they bundle with their
- system, then IBM can press it's advantage with the vendors. IBM
- does has a long track record with corporate sales that they well
- polished on. Where they fall down, is consumer sales; but they're
- learning.
-
- JMHO...
-
-
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