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- From: geertj@ica.philips.nl (Geert Jan de Groot)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
- Subject: Re: MSMail <--> SMTP (Was: Re: TCP/IP, WFW, ethernet, and internet mail)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.022510.1909@ica.philips.nl>
- Date: 29 Dec 92 02:25:10 GMT
- References: <BxxJ1G.4vv@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> <1992Dec6.230456.24802@csc.canberra.edu.au> <1fvotcINNnq8@tamsun.tamu.edu> <8892@lee.SEAS.UC <rick.104.724358768@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu> <1992Dec22.140336.9232@alf.uib.no>
- Organization: Philips Consumer Electronics, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
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- im@cmr.no (Ingolf Magnus) writes:
-
- >1. Installing a separete gateway PC, acting as a client to both the MSMail post office and the
- > SMTP mail server. This would poll and move messages between the two worlds at frequent
- > intervals, e.g. each 5 minutes.
- >2. If the PCs have TCP/IP stacks, install a Transport Service for MSMail, letting each MSMail
- > instance poll for, and deliver, mail to/from the SMTP server.
-
- >Alternative 1 is available (at least in Norway) as the Microsoft SMTP Gateway product. It costs
- >around USD 7.000,- (Yep, seven-zero-zero-zero). Or, one can purchase the FFAPI (File Format
-
- Be VERY CAREFUL when trying Microsoft's SMTP gateway. I have tried version 3.0,
- and found in non-RFC compliant in various ways. Some notes, just off the top of
- my head (I have reported, and then put it AWAY since then):
-
- 1. The 220 welcome message on an incoming SMTP session is illegal. It says:
- 220 All set, fire away
- while the format [RFC 821, page 37], should be:
- 220 pcgate.inet.ica.philips.nl All set, fire away
- 2. The SMTP gateway does not support the NOOP command, and it should
- per [RFC821, page 41], even in a minmal implementation.
- 3. The SMTP gateway gives a '503 Bad command sequence' if I send a
- QUIT command as first command. First off, that is a perfect legal thing
- to do; second, the 503 response is not allowed [RFC821, page 38].
- 4. I think it isn't nice to close the control channel when the gateway
- encounters something it doesn't like, but yet it does. 'Be liberal in
- what you accept, be conservative in what you generate'.
- 5. The gateway tries to get 'friendly names' from SMTP headers, but that
- code is defective. It understands:
- From: Geert Jan de Groot <geertj@ica.philips.nl>
- but it doesn't understand:
- From: geertj@ica.philips.nl (Geert Jan de Groot)
- which is what most SUNs generate these days.
- 6. Unless one puts everyone's email address in his 'addressbook', using
- the gateway to SMTP is hard to use. Can you please hand me the addressbook
- for the internet :-)?
- 7. There is no theory-of-operation, no descriptions what all the files
- mean. Everything is encrypted. This isn't so bad, but please make
- VERY SHURE that you are not responsible for lost mail if you like your job!
- 8. I have tried, but not succeeded, to install this package under PC-NFS.
- The client software doesn't work right under PC-NFS.
- Since the client software is not my responsability, and because of the
- way the SMTP gateway works, I have worked on other things since then.
-
- Too bad.
-
- Geert Jan
-