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- From: seifert@netcom.com (Rich Seifert)
- Subject: Re: Dec and IEEE Spanning Tree differences
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.023337.17569@netcom.com>
- Organization: Networks & Communications Consulting
- References: <C01pny.4Kp@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:33:37 GMT
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- In article <C01pny.4Kp@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>, streater@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Tim Streater) writes:
- > I am trying to understand spanning tree a little better, particularly as we
- > have Cisco routers doing bridging, and bridges from DEC (LANBridge 150) and
- > NAT (LAN100M).
- >
- > As I understand it there are two spanning tree algorithms, so-called DEC and
- > IEEE. Bridges implementing these protocols exchange multicast packets between
- > themselves in order to decide who should go into backup mode, in the case where
- > bridges are connected redundantly in loops.
- >
- > I would like to know:
- >
- > 1) What this multicast address is and are there two of them, one for the DEC
- > and one for the IEEE protocols?
- >
-
- The IEEE "All Bridges Multicast" is 01-80-C2-00-00-00 for Spanning Tree
- purposes (for Management of the bridge, use 01-80-C2-00-00-10)
-
- I am not sure if the DEC version of the protocol uses the same multicast.
- I seriously doubt it, since the DEC products were shipping BEFORE we
- signed off the 802.1 bridge spec, and the address was one of the last
- things we selected (specifically so that vendors would not get an
- early jump on implementation and make incompatible products).
-
- The DEC LANbridge 150 uses the IEEE protocol. I think the DEC LANbridge
- 100 (and some Vitalink products) were the only ones which used the older
- DEC protocol.
-
- > 2) Radia Perlman also describes the format of the multicast packets. Are there
- > any differences here between the two algorithms?
- >
-
- There are some minor differences in the syntax of the packets. However
- minor, the difference are sufficient to make the protocols incompatible.
- A loop formed of bridges using the two protocols will not resolve itself.
-
- > We plan to have the Cisco routers running the DEC protocol and the bridges
- > running IEEE, with no mixture of bridge vendors on a given subnet. Is this a
- > sensible scheme?
- >
-
- Why use the DEC protocol at all? It offers no advantage, other than that
- it can support the older DEC bridges. If you don't have LANbridge
- 100s, just use the standard protocol.
-
-
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