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- From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
- Subject: Re: Comparison of Alpha, MIPS and PA-RISC-II wanted
- Message-ID: <id.3P0W.5ZF@ferranti.com>
- Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
- References: <FRANL.92Nov25233757@draco.centerline.com> <0f=Q_u600WBO40k2xV@andrew.cmu.edu> <BzGn32.37C@dscomsa.desy.de>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:57:17 GMT
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- In article <BzGn32.37C@dscomsa.desy.de> Hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
- > 1) Online manual still designed with aim of minimizing disk space rather than
- > providing information.
-
- Well, it's better than most systems which provide no online manual at all, or
- provide one that requires some fancy hardware/software combination to use, and
- can only be used from one seat at a time.
-
- > 2) No help facility.
-
- It's a fair cop, but in general I find I rarely use the help facility on VMS
- unless I *can't* get to the offline manual and need to find an option. A help
- facility is no replacement for a tutorial, and a tutorial and manual is more
- useful than any of the three.
-
- > 3) No standardized user firendly shell.
-
- A fair cop, but there have been pretty nice front ends. I think that this will
- show up in a matter of time as windows finally filter down to the commodity
- market.
-
- > 4) Command qualifiers hard coded into applications making multilanguage
- > customization impossible.
-
- I wouldn't want multilanguage customization of command qualifiers. Help
- messages and error messages, yes, I'll go with that.
-
- > 5) Requires expensive expert to have a chance of any security.
-
- A fair cop, and I blame the vendors. It's not HARD to ship a system with
- good default security. SCO claims to.
-
- > 6) File system limited to sequential file, forcing applications to create
- > their own file system on top of the UNIX one, thus preventing any
- > standardization or application independent optimization.
-
- On the other hand, there are some very strong traditions about file formats
- and semantics that have proven extremely useful, and are one of the reasons
- UNIX is so popular.
-
- > The kernel is a major factor in determining how useful the system is. Only
- > AT&T had the capability to introduce a shell to replace the standard ones
- > that could have achieved a degree of acceptance.
-
- Um, the kernel and shell are separate components. Which are you talking about?
-
- > If UNIX was ever allowed to become the sole O/S it would halt O/S deelopment
- > completely.
-
- Actaully, UNIX has allowed a lot of OS research that would otherwise be
- impossible. By providing a useful lowest comon denoinator interface people
- have been able to spend more time on the operating system and less time
- reinventing the wheel. The amount of variety "under the hood" of UNIX and
- UNIX-like systems is incredible.
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