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- Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
- Message-ID: <9212212201.AA13179@SAIL.Stanford.EDU>
- Newsgroups: bit.listserv.politics
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:01:40 -0800
- Sender: Forum for the Discussion of Politics <POLITICS@UCF1VM.BITNET>
- From: Andy Freeman <andy@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>
- Subject: Re: <None>
- In-Reply-To: <01GSHS3Z61YO0010QR@drew.drew.edu>
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- >> Actually, I haven't offered personal distaste at all. I also haven't
- >
- >the person you are replying to probably is talking about another
- >person who posted on the subject, and did offer personal distaste
-
- However, he also suggested that that was the only "legit" reason and
- that none other had been offered.
-
- >> advocated "restricting the ability of gays to live and work where they
- >> please". I've merely said that no owner is obligated to provide it to
- >> them.
- >
- >this is a form of restricting, is it not?
-
- No, it isn't. Restrictions come from third parties. Choices by
- participants are different. For example, restrictions require
- enforcement while choices don't.
-
- >apparently not getting a job because of sexual orientation or race is
- >equal to not getting a car because you don't have enough money. The
- >former case is _not_ discrimination in the legal sense or the sense we
- >as a nation are trying to avoid.
-
- Actually, we are trying to avoid "he can't afford that"
- "discrimination", which is why I used that example. Why is "doesn't
- have enough money" acceptable when "wrong orientation/color" isn't?
- Why is "wrong orientation/color" acceptable from employees/customers,
- but not employers/sellers?
-
- >> Does Peter really believe that only "good" interests will be
- >> protected?
- >
- >apparently. He's not alone in his apparent naiviete since many people
- >support the Civil Rights Act that prevents private discrimination
- >based on race, creed, national origin, and sex. They don't seem to
- >think that such laws will require them to give away cars to people who
- >can't afford them.
-
- Are we using "popularity" to measure "right" again?
-
- We're going to have to require synagogues to hire Nazis and AAs to
- patronize Nazis, abandon this whole misguided endeavor, or prove that
- we're discriminating against "bad" politics. Pick one.
-
- -andy
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